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Default Not recommended - 07-14-2008, 06:27 AM

I purchased this EA and when I had a question, it took them 11 days to email me back with a lame reply.

The problem was that the EA went down 600 pips. I questioned the logic behind the movement and the response I got was... sometimes it takes day or weeks to get a profit.

No contact phone number and poor technical support. I don't recommend. Their customer support is as sloppy as the destiny ea
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Default Good Luck Then - 07-14-2008, 03:24 PM

For those who are speaking up for Charles and his plan, good luck then.

When you really make money, show us the proof on this forum.

I even begin to wonder if all these "recruit" members are of the same person.

How much has his LIVE account really made money and how that can march to 1 million, well show us the proof. As always, results are always falling behind in days and weeks.

So now you buy Gold and Supreme and hope to get better ? I don't think so.

I offer my opinions which can be negative and so I got banned not just because of the newsletter.

So go and trust your honest guru who is harvesting that $200 or $400 from each and everyone of u.

Enough said. Hope on to your drawdowns and see if you can ever reach your FAPTS dream.

Who is ultimate winner of FAPWINNER ?
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Default half truths ? - 07-14-2008, 03:28 PM

believe what you will.

So he is honestly helping you out, buying his time so that he can eventually sell his product to you. Yeah an internet marketer at the very best of his trade.

Go pay up that $200 and $400 and come back to this forum after one month to tell us if you are able to make that money to cover your purchase.

His own account can't even make $500 a month without that top up. Don't tell me I am wrong about him topping up his account and claiming that as part of his earnings.

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For the last four months, Charles has put his heart and soul into answering any and all questions that members of the FAP users group have had when customer support could not take the time, ignored or could not keep up with their request. He took it upon himself to provide a safe environment to give answers to questions users had that weren’t being answered by anyone else. He has guided, directed, instructed and spent numerous untold daily hours at our peck and call. All you would need to do is look at the times of his postings of the group message site to see how much time and energy he puts into helping others! Oh and let's not forget above all, the request and questions sent to his personal email account that we never see! The man couldn't possibly sleep, eat or have a life or any quality family time with all the time he spends doing the above. He's worked hard making sure that we have what we need, when we need it. What other professional financial advisor would have done that for others without charging an astronomical fee? The group gets his expertise, his knowledge and his time for FREE! How many other people spend over 20+ hours a day at a job that does not pay your bills? All he asked of us is to be courteous, polite, have a willingness to learn and be taught and to help others when we see fit.

And then we have people riding their own negative roller coaster. The devil is not always beautifully dressed and does not always have soothing words for those he wants to conquer! Sometimes he’s shows up in a discussion forum behind a computer screen. He spews lies according to what he wants you to hear. He gives you just enough of the truth mixed in with his lies to make you believe what he is saying. He gives you half-truths without giving you the actual circumstances for the statements made and the complete content of text. He was banned from the group, yet somehow the bad apple has managed to worm his way back in the group under disguise so he can feed like a vampire sucking the life out of what he wishes he had thought about and hasn’t done. He negatively uses other people’s words without their permission to achieve what he has set out to do. Like a troubled child, he was given warnings that rude negativity and total disrespect, not adhering to simple rules (not spamming the group with things other then FAP – i.e. newsletters) not a disagreement with Charles’ advice, would not be tolerated. Devils in any form don’t know the truth but will preach it like it’s the gospel.

These people were lost and found a home and a family, over 600+, where they can be supported, they can work out their issues and problems, they can ask questions of not only Charles but of others that have gained some expertise and who are willing to lend a hand where a hand is needed. Yet Mr. Negative Roller Coaster Rider, all you have managed to do is try and take down his efforts with your negative postings, failing miserably. Say it with me..... "OVER 600 MEMBERS" Spilt milk perhaps? One has to wonder why you have nothing else to do with your time other then try and knock Charles and his heroic efforts to take on something so enormous that no one else thought about or had the nerve to do. Instead of trying to use the group for your own selfish purposes, you could have tried to impart some useful advice, but like other devils, you continue to overuse your given talents in a negative way instead of shining a positive light.

Hopeful you as well as others riding your coat tails, will eventually grow tired of the childish antics and step into the light of maturity and self-awareness.
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Default 07-14-2008, 03:32 PM

and if he is really that helpful, why not give his plans for free ?

And if he is really making millions from his plans, why even spend time to form a group and eventually sell his EA and plan ?
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Default Half Truth - 07-14-2008, 07:11 PM

FAP DOES INDEED have a support phone number, but their customer support does need to be overhauled. It does need improvement. That is why I created FAPUG. With FAPUG, you will get everything that you need to trade properly, as well as excellent customer service and support.
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Default 07-14-2008, 07:21 PM

TKLEE,
You are still lying. Here is the proof.
1. You were banned for spamming and solicitation AFTER you were warned.

2. You stole and reprinted emails without permission.

3. My ACCOUNT IS AVAILABLE FOR ALL TO SEE AS EVIDENCED BY FPA's OWN COMMENTS. THEY DID NOT QUESTION NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THE ACCOUNT THEY SAID IT IS BETTER NOT TO ADD MONEY.

4. I cannot afford to run FAPWINNER WITHOUT HELP, LIKE I DID FOR FAPUG!
FAPWINNER is a membership organization like any other. Members support the running of the organization.

5. The account is over $1400.00. It is doubled when you subtract the added funds of $300.00.

Where is YOUR proof? Mine is public and available. ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SEE MY ACCOUNT, the information is in earlier posts, or you may get it from me. Send a email request to support@fapwinner.com

Thank you to all that defended FAPUG from the lies of TKLEE. There is truly power in numbers. Thank you all.

Charles
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Default LOL - 07-15-2008, 01:27 AM

Look who's stealing and making money out of the sso called settings and spreadsheets...


You are selling for $$ the customized settings that you got from other blogs and forums where u posted questions in the past to get to know FAPS.

Alan and Craig were the first to use and acknowledge the new settings before u (Charles) even created FAPUG and is selling now. Maybe the Lot size management is worth $40 and heard that it going to raise to $50? There is a spreadsheet on craig's blog that a user peter created which does the same thing when u fine tune the spreadsheet a bit.

Here is link to craig's blog for proof
Craig's Money Making Blog: Forex Autopilot

And alan's discussion group where he backtested the settings he came up with
Forex Autopilot Performance Update for April 06 2008 | Alan's Forex Blog

Here is alan's further testing and discussion reports with craig and others
The Forex Autopilot System - The Money Guru Forum - Money Making Discussions

Reflect on your own actions first, stealing from others and making it your own to sell to others.

Go ahead and show us that 1 million in 2 yrs where you are forever set back by days and weeks on your system........ and you need to top up with money .

In any case, if you can even reach 5K in earnings at all by the end of this yr.
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Default 07-15-2008, 01:31 AM

Sure members support your running by paying you $200, $400 etc.... Think 600 * 200 = $120000 yes that's right you need that much to keep a so called honest millionaire guru running a website that sells the FAPTS at $60 or $199. and the Gold for $200 (?) and Surpreme ($400).
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Default 07-15-2008, 01:36 AM

BTW, did you even mention in your group about the top up ?

Newbies will not be able to tell the difference.

YOUR CURRENT BALANCE IN YOUR LIVE ACCOUNT IS 1472.00. DEDUCTING $600 (INITIAL AND TOP UP), THAT'S ONLY 800+

I wonder whether your buddy Isaac ever mention this $600 during his March To 1 Million posts at all.

And someone told me your indicator was short last week and this week is also short. I wonder how many poor newbies were taken with huge drawdowns with this indication of yours LAST WEEK. Like you said, people will take what you tell them. I am surprised those who set to Short for last week did not speak up. Poor newbies.
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BTW, did you even mention in your group about the top up ?

Newbies will not be able to tell the difference.

YOUR CURRENT BALANCE IN YOUR LIVE ACCOUNT IS 1472.00. DEDUCTING $600 (INITIAL AND TOP UP), THAT'S ONLY 800+

I wonder whether your buddy Isaac ever mention this $600 during his March To 1 Million posts at all.

And someone told me your indicator was short last week and this week is also short. I wonder how many poor newbies were taken with huge drawdowns with this indication of yours LAST WEEK. Like you said, people will take what you tell them. I am surprised those who set to Short for last week did not speak up. Poor newbies.
.................and if you indicate Short for this week, why did you have Long position opened in your account yesterday.

You do not follow what you say.
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