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[j1234]

to marsh56
First of all you say so what if it takes 3, 4 years.
Then its false advertising. FALSE ADVERTISING

Here is an exact quote you can find on fapwinner.
"A concrete trading plan that can help you earn $1,000,000 in less than two (2) years!"


The fact that you even mentioned 3, 4 years puts doubt that this would even work. 3-4 years past.
then it will be so what. 6-7 years. then so what 10-15 years, then so what 100 years.lol

The fact is is that he has never made a million with this. It was just a ploy for people to join
so he can take there money. He had one lucky month and decided to scam people and start a website.

FALSE ADVERTISING TO HAVE PEOPLE JOIN AND HE CAN TAKE THERE MONEY

Second , you say that the account doubled in the first month april.
Then you have april,may, june, july, ( 4 - 5 months, not 2-3 like you mentioned)
Then what happens a 2 week trade WIPED OUT April, May, June, and some of July.
A 2 week trade. let me repeat again. A 2 WEEK TRADE.
If the month closed one day later the account would most likley be in the negative with the euro droping further.

Plus account deposit 300.25 cents . CMON he has no money so was walking around picking
up every penny he could find. What proffessional trader puts 25 cents. looks desperate. then
when scammed people with constant false advertising on fapug because he controls what to post he was
able to put up 300 more dollars and start a second account.

What about the second account?
it was active for 2 months then last 2 weeks happened and was looking in the negative last time i checked.

And yes, the second account does looked closed.
here is a copy.
Account: 22774 Name: Charles Floyd Currency: USD 2008 August 1, 02:47
Closed Transactions: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Close Time Price Commission Taxes Swap Profit No transactions
Closed P/L: 0.00 Open Trades: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Price Commission Taxes Swap Profit No transactions
Floating P/L: 0.00 Working Orders: Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Market Price No transactions
Summary: Deposit/Withdrawal: 0.00 Credit Facility: 0.00 Closed Trade P/L: 0.00 Floating P/L: 0.00 Margin: 0.00
Balance: 2 075.94 Equity: 2 075.94 Free Margin: 2 075.94

Where is all the transactions??????????????????????????????????
What happened to the last two months????????????????????????
When it was suddenly in the negative what? everthing gets deleted??????????????????

Looks messed up to me? First account looks normal. Never seen account go like this losing all transactions.
For all we know he could be changing results to put back on later? First account looks normal

Have you seen this also? tell me what you think? click or type in the link below

https://www.livefaceonweb.com/order.aspx

go to order / male models, click on male model doug, here is the fapwinner link for comparison

FAP Winner | Forex Autopilot Group

Did you know that marcus leary on the website isnt really marcus leary?

Kinda makes you think if those TESTIMONIALS OR ANYTHING is true

[marsh56]

j1234, what exactly is your agenda? All you do is make accusations and then you don't back them up with facts but just with your opinion. What's the point?

By creating controversy, you are actually drawing more attention to the site. For that, we all thank you! Once there, fair-minded people can make up their own minds.

There is no false advertising as you claim. The word "can" is specifically used. In case you don't understand, that means it's possible. Nowhere is the word guarantee used. That word would make it both false and illegal.

If you take the time to do the math, it is indeed possible to get to $1 million in 2 years. It was I who said "what if it takes 3-4" and not the web site.

Yes, the first account lost a great deal in 2 weeks--so what? Have you ever lost a trade or series of trades? Do you even trade? I ask because you keep making a point of "2 weeks". Is there something special about that time frame?

I already mentioned that this is a long-term strategy. Which part of that do you not understand? You also still have not shown me another trader who makes his accounts public. The second account is not closed. Once again you claim something that is false.

It is clear you have an axe to grind with FAPWINNER. Why not explain why that is instead of posting all of this foolish drivel? I would assume you have better things to do as do I.

The bottom line is that FAP and FAPTS work exactly as advertised. You have not proven otherwise. Instead you are looking foolish here on this forum.

Marcus is known to the group and we are well aware that it is not him in the videos. This is very common when people from foreign lands promote a product in other countries. It does not detract one iota from the quality of the product.

Have a wonderful day. I've got to get back to trading with my FAPTS!

Mark

[j1234]

Do you believe this people??????????????????/

What a load of bs.
Thanks for your reply. It was soooooooo funnnyyyyy.


CAN


yes i do trade.
I have a system
The plan CAN make you a 1 million in one month
only 39.99

OPPSS if it doesnt . so sorry ., so sorry , so sorry BUT THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY.
maybe you should try one of my other plans for more money. two months to a million. for $199.99
if it doesnt work so sorry so sorry so sorry so sorrry, BUT THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY
it will eventually happen though
its long term people. lol lol For now. while you wait for your millions. Please feel free to visit my website. I have a paid actor
pretending to be someone else. I can make him say anything i want. You can find it amusing. After all. I ALREADY HAVE YOUR MONEY.






CAN CAN CAN CAN CAN

should be

CAN NOT
CAN NOT
CAN NOT


What is your agenda? Are you a paid employee just trying to cover his plan up. HUH?
When charles said he is not comming back here
Suddenly you show up as a new representative.
HUH?

coincidence?


And yes,
I keep mentioning 2 weeks because 2 weeks is fast enough to wipe out months of profit.
Which kinda happened to both accounts.






Have a nice day

[marsh56]

Once again, all you display here is your utter ignorance of the FAPTS trading system. If, in fact, you trade and are such an expert, why not provide proof here?

No, I do not work for Charles. In fact, I volunteer my time to respond to foolish posts like yours in order to set the record straight. No matter what you say, the truth speaks for itself.

Quite frankly, Charles has better things to do than to respond to your drivel.

All 3 accounts (including the one at the FAPWINNER site) are all still active and trading. That's all that matters right now.

Have a great day!

Mark

[cfloydii]

On Friday, August 1, 2008, Account 22774 stopped publishing. That has
set the rumor mills on fire, and sadly, some are spreading lies that the account was closed because because I "blew it up".

There is no truth to this statement at all.

The truth is that InterbankFX has an issue with the publisher. This is
not an isolated event as others are experiencing the same problems as
well. Account 22774 is alive and well. Here is how you may access the account LIVE.

Please do the following.

1. You must have the interbankfx MT4 platform.
2. Select login.
3. Input Account Number: 22774
4. Input Password: park60466
5. Please select MINI SERVER #2.

This will give you up to the second coverage of the account.

As soon as the problem is resolved, the account will resume live posts again.

Charles

[Sueozzie]

TKL, First off I want to thank you for all the publicity you have provided for FAPUG and for this opportunity to give out information of what FAPUG has got.
!!! WONDERFUL SUPPORT!!!

You know TKL, it was this forum that I came too when I was looking for answers after buying the FAP and you know what? I found it here.

It wasn't your comment that I took notice of it was the help and proof and posts that I read from members and Charles’s evidence that lead me to FAPUG.

Thank you for keeping it going. You are doing a great job for others out there that are looking for assistance.
FPA does serve its purpose and I am so pleased I didn't take what you had to say but checked out the support that was posted by members.

Now I have wonderful support and am learning so much and also helping others too. YES I do help out and I am not paid. And I do enjoy seeing others get help too like I needed.

So CONGRATULATIONS LTK your doing a great job.

You and a few are missing so much and your accusations are so unfounded it is amusing to pop back and read.. You provide no proof where as Charles does.

Your behavior got you banned!!

A WARM Welcome is extended To who ever reads this and requires help. FAPUG is free to join group and provides a wonderful community for FAP users. FAPWINNER is our new home so come and see for yourself how you too can have a entry into that new home.

Signed as one that was pleased I found FPA and support at FAPUG.
Thank you Charles and other members that post the truth, so others like me could find.

[Rory Kruger]

So I see a lot of people fighting with each other about what is factual about the FAPTS plan and whats not factual...so I will deal with ONLY facts.

I bought FAPTS and it started great, then the draw down happened ,I know draw downs are part of forex BUT ( FACT) I was constantly told by Charles to let it ride...what goes down MUST come up he would say...so I listened...Charles plan was not comprehensive and never took Draw downs into account as a possibility.

(FACT)Those that got scared and closed their trades at about -100 odd pips saved their accounts, (FACT) those that listened to Charles and stuck to his plan rigidly had to endure a draw down in excess of 450 pips.(I was one of them )

the new month started and again the draw down kicked in, (FACT) AGAIN those that went against Charles recommendation to let it ride saved their accounts....while I listened to Charles and stuck to the plan...

The result? (FACT) in 8 days Charles FAPTS blew up my account. I stuck to his plan rigidly and never swayed from his advice and I lost over $1300 for it.(my whole account)

(FACT) Charles then posted no trade weeks, advising us NOT to trade...again those that did not listen traded and made their money back apparently...

Yes charles did say IF you MUST trade then trade short only, but this is ambiguous! 1st give NO TRADE advice and also only trade short if you MUST trade....how does that help me? my account was blown up because of listening to Charles.

(FACT) I am not the only one that suffered devestating loss with FAPTS and others lost most of their accounts.

Those are the FACTS every one is debating about, FAPTS lost me everything!

(FACT) NO ONE who traded an account under $1500 strictly according to FAPTS should have survived the draw down with more than 8% of their accounts.

(FACT) If you traded a $700 account you would have been left with less than $140, if you had a $500 account (as many did) and you stuck to Charles advice then you should have less than $100.

THOSE ARE THE FACTS you have been crying for!

These are NOT DEBATABLE opinions they are FACTS , so if any one tries refute or soften these facts that I and many others personally experienced and the math proves beyond a doubt then your agenda is under suspicion!

[Rory Kruger]

Here are some more facts that I neglected to mention earlier...

I checked Charles account 26411 on the 5/08 and noticed he had 6 short trades in a row...

6 SHORT TRADES IN A ROW?!!! we ALL know FAPS does NOT do that unless its set to short only, that's a FACT! or we would not have had many if any long trades in the big draw down.

I queried it with Charles and asked if he is set to short only, he said he is NOT on short only but he is trading long and short like the rest of us....I DARE ANY1 trading on the IBFX broker like Charles to show me their 6 shorts in a row from the 4/08 to the 5/08....

In fact I saw many others querying that exact thing on his own forums on fapwinner. His response?...you must have started at a different time etc.

We are not children! we will not accept that nonsense! I don't care what time you start your FAP even in a HUUUGE downtrend it will NOT trade short 6 times in a row unless its set to short only.

Do your back tests do your forward tests, do sideways,upside down or inverted tests, test till the cows come home and you will not get FAP to trade short 6 times in a row unless you set it to short only.

These are just some of the facts that have made me join Craig Ryan's FAP group (FAPTF)on Google groups.

My friend emailed me a graph of his account for the period that my account was wiped out...HE MADE GOOD MONEY with Craig's settings and plan.

when I tried to suggest on FPMG that we might test the settings he used, I got a nasty message from Charles saying I have a FINAL warning to stop promoting things contrary to FAPTS ideology....isn't FAPTS ideology to make money?!!!

My 2nd account that I managed to rescue from annihilation at the hands of FAPTS has been resurrected by Craig's settings and is doing nicely with NO chance of being wiped out like my account with the FAPTS plan.

Before you buy anything from Charles have a look at the FAPTF group on Google groups,give yourself a fair chance to have a choice of who you will trust.

[allinvain]

Ahoy there fellow pip sailors. Just thought I'd let you know that a few days ago I put together a forum dedicated to the Forex Autopilot System and I'm inviting you all to join and share your ideas, methods, techniques, etc for making the most out of this EA. URL is:

http://www.forexautopilotforum.com

This forum is meant for SHARING, not promoting, so no so called forex autopilot gurus and system sellers are welcome.

Hope to see you there.

Cheers,
Alan

[angelgirl]

Can someone PLEASE give me the URL to Craig Ryan's FAP group on Google.

I have searched myself into a migraine and still cannot find it.

Thanks,
Angie