Beware of Feibel Trading

OKTiger23

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Perhaps you are right smiley - perhaps I am just a lowly pathetic individual that decided to pursue a trading and coaching path in the style of a particular school. While I have spent a fair some of money, the coaching and progress was more than worth it. Fortunately for you and everyone else, how I decide to spend my money and time doesn't impact you at all.

However, I am also not the one that ran to the internet to cry about "getting ripped off" for any of my purchases. I don't really know, or care, what your experience was. From your last post it seems that you are very independent and a swift learner, that courses and coaching are beneath you - so why did you even purchase the program in the first place?

Leave those purchases to the weak, less superior people like myself and just go about your successful trading business.

To the rest, make your own decisions.
 

Alkarin

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"I came across this post after a google search" lol really? What were you doing googling "Feibel scam" if you are already "a student for more than a year"... give me a break.

He got invited there because they didn´t get Gary Dayton, he didn´t wanna do it, and they almost did not get David Weis. I even spoke on the phone with Roman Bogomazov about Feibel, how he scammed me and his behavior afterwards. I warned them that they were hosting a scammer. Roman said he would never had done what Feibel did.

"The OP sounds like he spent a few hundred bucks/pounds, and either didn't like or didn't understand what he got - perhaps expected more or some "holy grail", I can't say."

You are playing the crazy dumb card now, in the OP is crystal what happened, explained in detail, there is documental evidence, it is clear in the image attached the conversation I had BEFORE I made the purchase trying to make sure the material wasn´t for noobs, was indeed something original and clever. He was well aware that I was a specialist in VSA, and he just kept quiet to pocket the money and sell free knowledge marketed as "exclusive strategy" lol, everything copied blatantly from Tom Williams and Gavin Holmes books.

Even Dr. Gary is aware of Feibel but doesn´ t know what to do, I guess an international law suit is expensive, and the law is a bit nebulous in this area, copycats get away easily by changing the name of things and a little parameter here and there to call it "their own". So I can see how he might be worried about spending a lot of money and stressing out when the copycat has a good chance to get away with it.
 

OKTiger23

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"I came across this post after a google search" lol really? What were you doing googling "Feibel scam" if you are already "a student for more than a year"... give me a break.

He got invited there because they didn´t get Gary Dayton, he didn´t wanna do it, and they almost did not get David Weis. I even spoke on the phone with Roman Bogomazov about Feibel, how he scammed me and his behavior afterwards. I warned them that they were hosting a scammer. Roman said he would never had done what Feibel did.

"The OP sounds like he spent a few hundred bucks/pounds, and either didn't like or didn't understand what he got - perhaps expected more or some "holy grail", I can't say."

You are playing the crazy dumb card now, in the OP is crystal what happened, explained in detail, there is documental evidence, it is clear in the image attached the conversation I had BEFORE I made the purchase trying to make sure the material wasn´t for noobs, was indeed something original and clever. He was well aware that I was a specialist in VSA, and he just kept quiet to pocket the money and sell free knowledge marketed as "exclusive strategy" lol, everything copied blatantly from Tom Williams and Gavin Holmes books.

Even Dr. Gary is aware of Feibel but doesn´ t know what to do, I guess an international law suit is expensive, and the law is a bit nebulous in this area, copycats get away easily by changing the name of things and a little parameter here and there to call it "their own". So I can see how he might be worried about spending a lot of money and stressing out when the copycat has a good chance to get away with it.

Ok, well buddy best of luck. You seem pretty upset - must have been a pretty traumatic experience for you to be disappointed with a course that cost a couple of hundred bucks. Hopefully you recover. Maybe you should try a class action, or form an internet army to fight for your cause.

Peace.
 

Alkarin

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Another thing very suspicious about this guy´s post (and again let´s pretend he was a real customer for a moment) is his reaction when finding out that he spent a fortune to learn something that is totally free. The natural reaction is to feel robbed and very angry, and yet here he is praising the guy who took advantage of him charging over 15K to teach something that you can learn from free from just one book.

You can see here that the owner of futures.io forum (a very big and respectful trading forum) saw right through him and his practices, and banned him on the spot, check the last post of this thread:

futures.io/emini-emicro-index/42339-s-p-chronicles-amalgamation-wyckoff-vsa-volume-spread-analysis-price-action-47.html

"I have had a chance to review some of what took place here in the thread by futures.io/trading_member/92757-feibel.html - Feibel, and I strongly dislike his methods to bypass our vendor rules.

It is a very clear violation of our no self-promotion policy with vendors. I am permanently banning him for this reason. The thread will remain closed, as it's just a vendor propaganda thread at this point and has lost any integrity it may have had. That is the risk he took with his stealth vendor approach."
 

Pheniox123

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So my friend Alkarin, let me get this straight : you come on my scam thread and practically insulted everyone who ever started a thread on the scam folder and state they are all noobs and no scams ever happened to them. Then you come on here and have the audacity to start a scam thread :rolleyes::D...

I thought you was an expert trader; so why would you spend money on some stupid courses and then complain about them? I mean surely you know how to trade perfectly so why the need for courses and then cry about the money you wasted on them :D...(finally the 1K you lost should be easily replaced within seconds with your superior trading...leave the scam folders for us poor noobs here;)
 

Alkarin

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So my friend Alkarin, let me get this straight : you come on my scam thread and practically insulted everyone who ever started a thread on the scam folder and state they are all noobs and no scams ever happened to them. Then you come on here and have the audacity to start a scam thread :rolleyes::D...

I thought you was an expert trader; so why would you spend money on some stupid courses and then complain about them? I mean surely you know how to trade perfectly so why the need for courses and then cry about the money you wasted on them :D...(finally the 1K you lost should be easily replaced within seconds with your superior trading...leave the scam folders for us poor noobs here;)

For starters, this thread is related to Feibel trading scam, not discussing with you because you got butthurt after hearing some truths. You didn´t get scammed, you simply have no clue about how to trade, which is evident judging the screenshots you posted with a gazillion of over leveraged trades in markets with high correlation (which is basically the same thing as opening a huge position), on top of that taking trades in the opposite position as "hedges" in case you were wrong lol, so amateur. Then you lose money because bad trading / overtrading and wanna blame the broker.

I never insulted anyone there, "everyone" lol, everyone who? I was talking specifically with you and about your bad trading decisions.

The only reason I bought the course is explained in the OP = victim of false marketing. Even if you are an expert at something, it does not mean you will never study trading related material related to the method you use, as you can gain some insights, little nuance here and there that might improve your trading even more. But it was not the case, I ended up buying a pig in a poke.

"The audacity to open a scam thread", yes this is was actually a scam, unlike your case.
 

Alkarin

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@moderator

I ask please to delete comments in the thread made by Pheniox123, they have nothing to do with Feibel trading scam, he is just here to bust my balls.

FPA Forums Team Note: Alkarin, before getting so butthurt that you hit the Report Abuse button on Pheniox123's post above, you need to think about how to more politely express your viewpoint. You should examine your posts in both his thread and in yours.

Consider this to be a formal warning that you are pressing the boundaries of civilized behavior. All FPA members are expected to behave in a civilized manner.
 

Alkarin

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@moderator

Where wasn´t I polite? That is the problem with this generation of millennials and all this "political correctness", it just creates a bunch of snowflakes that can´t hear some truths that they get all butthurt and crying to their mamas.

I didn´t get butthurt, I just think that the comments that are not related to the topic are polluting this thread.

I didn´t troll his thread with my post, I just stated a fact that can be confirmed by the screenshots he posted, which clearly demonstrate unprofessional reckless over leveraged trades without stops, which are the perfect recipe for disaster, and it is exactly the kind of thing that noobs do.

This thread on the other hand proves a real scam, his thread does not prove a scam, just proves he does not know how to trade properly.
 

Alkarin

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Ok, well buddy best of luck. You seem pretty upset - must have been a pretty traumatic experience for you to be disappointed with a course that cost a couple of hundred bucks. Hopefully you recover. Maybe you should try a class action, or form an internet army to fight for your cause.

Peace.

It wasn´t a couple hundred, it was US$1000, and it is not only about the money, it is a bout principles. He did it to me, and he will keep doing it to more hundreds of people, so the value keeps adding up. This is how those type of guys make money. The expertise of those guys is not trading or teaching, it is marketing and selling. This is a guy who could make a profit selling horse s*** he scooped from the streets. He would put it in a nice fancy bag and write "exclusive fertilizer made with proprietary formula, organic material produced by grass fed live stock"

No, why would I waste more money dealing with this hustler? Easier to keep going in every single trading related forum/community and exposing him, bad mouthing is super effective.
 
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