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China mineral company

Discussion in 'Non-Forex Scam Alerts' started by train, Aug 17, 2011.

  1. train

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    Early last year I was approached by phone by a Mr Alan Lemar of Tortola capital to purchase shares in Los vegas sands, after a while I was advised to move my portfolio to China mineral company. After that I lost touch with him and was contacted by Christopher Schwartz of China mineral company and he said that I still had warrants owing for more shares and that he would pass me on to a third party trader by the name of Jonathan c Chandler of Pretium Ventures. He contacted me soon after that and said that the shares would soon list and I had to honor my warrants. I did purchase some warrants but not to the value of what he suggested. I cannot get in touch now with China Mineral company officers although there is a receptionist taking calls and she says she will get some one to call me. Pretium ventures are just as bad but they say that they are waiting for news from China mineral company for their imminent listing. I have been strung along enough and am trying to get action.
     
  2. Pharaoh

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    Someone called you on the phone and suggested investing in LVS and then moving the money to shares in a Chinese company?

    Did you ever get a real statement from a real brokerage house indicating that you ever owned anything?

    What's the symbol for China Mineral Company and what exchange does it trade on?
     
  3. HermansPa

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    I had the same experience, just different company names. A few years ago I was contacted by Tortola to buy shares in acompany A123 systems. After the 6th call they could convince me to go along. I got extracts showing my portfolio, they even have a professional web site. After a few months I was contacted again to change my A123 shares to CMC shares, I just had to buy some extra shares of China Mineral Company to get a very good deal. Again after a number of call I went along and the trade was made, again I received an extract showing my portfolio.
    Then I started reading on the net warnings that Tortola was a scam operation and I contacted the Belgium authorities, they confirmed this to me, told me that they already had a number of complaints and informed me that my money was gone, non recoverable! After 6 months out of the blue I was contacted by C. Schwartz who worked directly for CMC, he confirmed my shares were still ok, that CMC was going to go to the stockmarket in Switzerland and that I could only win, just had to sign some documents to confirm I was the share holder. I didn't sign any of this and after some reminder mails from Mr. Schwartz all went quit. Till 2 weeks ago I was contacted, first by mail then by phone by the company Helm Capital, located in Tokyo. They have taken over Tortola and contacted me to find an exit strategy for my CMC shares as the company was not doing well and was slowly dying. After a week they came back and my shares were on a 1 for 1 base changed to shares of the company Clean Wind Energy Inc (CLWI), I again received all the transaction documents and portfolio to prove and show this to me, untill then no additional funds were required. Untill yesterday when I got the call that if I bought 15000 additional CLWI shares at 1€ per share I could get out by then selling all my 30000 shares at a rate of 3€ per share! After I refused to go along, the person got upset and told me that he could not do business with me as I didn't trust him??? He is going to recontact me in the next days to see what further steps can be taken to recover my money, wait and see!
     
  4. Pharaoh

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    So all your shares will be worth 3€ per share if and only if you buy another 15,000 shares for 1€ per share. Tell this moron to sell all 15,000 shares you own and send you the 45,000€. Then you'll be happy to consider buying another 15,000 shares for 1€ each. If they are a legitimate company (from what you say, it looks like they aren't), they should close your trading position and send you your cash with no argument.

    He's an actor. If you had suddenly pretended to change your mind, he'd have gotten over being upset in about 1/10 of a second. He's rehearsed this and done it hundreds of times. Since you invested once, you are on the "suckers list" and are a prime target to be ripped off over and over again. If you send them another 15,000€, there will be some reason why you can't sell your shares. Suddenly more money will be needed or else another "new company" will take over your position, maybe switching you to a new stock in the process.

    Report all of this to the authorities in your country and in any country they claim to be from. Keep talking to them to try to get information, but don't send them a single cent. If they send you documents to sign, send copies to the authorities.
     
  5. HermansPa

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    Thanks for your feedback, I will take your advice and keep you posted.
     
  6. HermansPa

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    To prove his point and his honesty he informed me I would be contacted by the investment company that works for this CLWI and holds their shares. And yes this morning I received a mail from the Customer Services of Rupert Capital Investor Relantions Inc, sent by Mr Fredrick Johnson, being the investor relation specialist. He informs me know that CLWI has confirmed to him that I own 15000 shares of their company, of course no contact number of address under the mail. I'm sure I will get a call next week for more convincing arguments.
     
  7. Pharaoh

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    Dig around online and see if you can find out what the market value of those shares would be (assuming that they were ever really purchased).

    Was that guy from rupertcapitalinvestorrelations.com? That domain was first registered on December 3rd, 2011. The admin contact is in Moscow. The billing contact is in Thailand.
     
  8. laforet

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    Clean Wind Energy Tower is a genuine company registered in the US, The scammers are selling shares in Clean Wind Energy Inc which they claim is registered in New Zealand. I also bought shares in Las Vegas Sands teo years ago through a company called Borsa Financial Services. The broker transferred my shares to another company called RRLI claiming they were just about to do an IPO and I would earn 3 times my investment in Las Vegas Sands. The IPO never happened and the company does not exist. A Robert Klein from Helm Capital contacted me a few weeks ago claiming he was now responsible for the clients of Borsa and he has tried to sell me shares in Clean Wind Energy Inc. in return for my shares in RRLI. I went along with him as the original money I invested is written off.
    I have received several mails from rupertcapitalinvestorrelations claiming they represent CWEI and with useless share documents full of spelling errors. Helm Capital and rupertcapitalinvestorrelations are clearly scammers so beware.
     
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    Futuro Financial

    I have very similar experience in the past. I believe it was late 2010 when I got a cold call from a person at Tortola Capital. Same story like the others. I should invest in LVS. Frankly speaking the guy was really good on the phone and although I'm normally not naive I invested a small amount in LVS after several calls. I got all documents from Tortola and after what I know now I have probably never actually bought any real shares. Unfortunately the share price of LVS went up as mentioned by Tortola Capital. So once I was contacted again I was much more positive and trusted that shifting the shares to China Mineral would be a good move. Of course this was combined with additional investment. At that point I made it clear that there will be no further investment from my side unless I see some return. This was promised to me and everything seemed to go smooth until1 week before the actual pay date. Same story like the others, some investor move out and I would have to increase my shares to participate in the deal. I didn't and fortunately the "deal" went without me. After some quite time I got a call from a person pretending to be the CFO of China Mineral. I couldn't find anything about him online and no documents were provided, etc. He actually offered me an even more ridiculous deal for much more money. Also this time I didn't join the deal... I knew by that time that I was scammed since lots of online warnings showed up, etc. I was upset with myself but got over it and put it in the "lesson learned" drawer. Now after over 2 years and having written off all the false investment I got contacted by Mr Apple Benson from company called Futuro Financial (Welcome to Futuro Financial, Osaka, Japan). I changed all my contact details and will not give any number to this person but I'm planning to call him back under the number he left me. I assume he wants to try selling me similar deals about Clean Wind Energy Inc. So be warned about Futuro Financials as well. I'll play the game and see if I can get any more info about them to may be report this scam to the authorities. I'll keep you all posted on the lies he's telling me.
     

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