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FORTFS SCAM!!!!

Discussion in 'Scam Alerts' started by Anatoly M, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. Anatoly M

    Anatoly M Recruit

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    I wrote in the first message about the total trading time in your company on my accounts! And here I ask to notice that nobody has to worry for what period of time the profit was earned! The terms of the agreement did not forbid me to earn a lot of profit! You consider normal only those cases when traders in your company lose deposits and when the trader earns profit you call him the deceiver! I have earned a profit-you owe me to pay it! If my orders were cancelled by a liquidity provider, show us this proof for each of my order!My expert Advisor uses sensitive trend indicators with tracking of stock volumes for each currency pair and starts to sell or buy currency when the market appears a powerful trend up or down!
     
  2. Mark Miller (FortFS)

    Mark Miller (FortFS) FortFS Representative

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    This is simply not true: our relationship is regulated by our legal documentation and not by what you think or decide. As stated previously, your trading behavior violates the following agreed upon legal documentation paragraph:

    Partner’s agreement (https://static.fortfs.com/download/partners_agreement.pdf):

    5.3.21. In case of any kind of manipulation (actions aimed at artificially increasing payments on affiliate programs) between the Partners or Clients belonging to one partner tree, the Company reserves the right to write off all accrued commissions and bonuses, to reduce the percentage or stop accruals of partner's commissions for one, more or all clients who are attached to the Partner, as well as exclude these Clients from the network of this Partner. Also, the Company reserves the right to compensate the financial losses from such manipulations by deducting from partner’s commissions or other funds deposited on accounts that belong to this Partner or Clients.


    We ask administrators to note that, with the quoted above passage, Anatoly admits to affiliate commissions manipulations and, thus, to violation of our agreement. As cause and effect of such actions are clearly stated in the provided agreement paragraph, we consider this question closed.


    Having received your permission, we are going to prepare and publish the excerpts from your trading history that illustrate our points in the upcoming days.
     
  3. Anatoly M

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    the question is not closed you stole my money, you have not provided proof that the liquidity provider cancel all transactions !! you do not need to specify individual fragments of the trading history! show all my trade history!
     
  4. Mark Miller (FortFS)

    Mark Miller (FortFS) FortFS Representative

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    Just to reiterate, on 03.01.2019 there was a high volatility market situation. Due to the known MT4 technical vulnerabilities, its quotation had a delay, which led to non-market prices for orders. The trading on Anatoly's account was abusing this delay and several orders were closed using outdated quotes (non-market prices), which was classified as an obvious mistake. Due to p.3.21 of the Rules of proceedings for trading operations (https://static.fortfs.com/download/regulation_of_operations.pdf), these orders were recalculated using the actual execution prices taken from liquidity provider’s quotes feed.

    Here, we would like to note that MT5 is a highly advanced trading platform, and such quotation delays are next to non-existent on its server. We invite you to study for yourself the MT5 quotes feed to clearly see that the MT4 server quotation had a delay, which led to non-market prices. (The file is too big for attachment, so it can be downloaded here: https://ufile.io/3dxsn).

    Also, based on Anatoly's trading history, we have prepared a comparison of MT4 and MT5 prices at the moments of orders execution (provided in the attachment) to demonstrate the discrepancy between prices of execution and actual market prices.

    Since Anatoly has already admitted to attempted affiliate commissions manipulations, which are explicitly forbidden by our mutually accepted Partner’s agreement, and, thus, to a gross violation of said agreement, we have no more comments in that regard. We hope that now the situation is fully clarified.
     

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  5. oscarra

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    why does it take so long to get the entire trading account history published ? so you think the company has no liquidity providers, making up their own kitchen prices….me too :D
     
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  6. Anatoly M

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    Earlier I said that my EA does not use quotes delays and vulnerabilities in MT4 !!!! Also, given your recalculation of my orders at the correct prices that you specified in the table - in the end you have to pay me 12,000 dollars my profit ! I did not manipulate partner commissions,I just continue traded hands !You can send me the profits to my perfect money wallet which I used to Fund my account or you can also send me the money to my Bank account details I can send you by email.
     
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  7. Mark Miller (FortFS)

    Mark Miller (FortFS) FortFS Representative

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    The reason why it may take some time to publish trading account history is that, while extortion on FPA is Anatoly’s full time job, we actually have some real work to do. How is posting trading history even remotely connected to “making up prices” is another good question.

    Also, we have literally just posted the relevant part of trading history, before you have even posted your message, so we are not sure what your point is.


    Yes, you said it, but these are just your words, and are most likely not true. We have quotes to back up our words, while you have not provided any proof so far. By the way, you still have not answered why your trading with different brokers keeps ending up here on forums due to non-market quotes, time after time. Is it a coincidence? Please comment on that.

    In the end, it is not even that relevant if the delays were used intentionally or not, although it is quite obvious that they were; what is relevant is the fact that they were used. Do you agree that the orders were executed with the delayed prices? The MT5 quotes feed is in public access, so you cannot possibly deny that. We have provided you the comparison, but anyone, who is monitoring the quotes, is welcome to double check it.


    This is not true, we have already commented on your obvious trade strategy change to meaningless commission generation (see our messages above). Your explanation was:

    Was this your explanation or not? This is a clear admission of manipulations with commissions. Despite what you think, such manipulation are in fact prohibited by the legal documentation which you have agreed to, and we have provided you the paragraph where it is clearly stated. There is no use to try to take your words back now.
     
  8. Anatoly M

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    I did not use the delay in the quotes! I demand my profit! My demands are completely legal ! I do not engage in extortion on this site, I defend my legal rights to receive my legal profit using the help of FPA as a completely independent resource !
     
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  9. Anatoly M

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    Do not distort my words ! I just said that I traded in such a way that it did not prohibit the terms of the agreement !Fact - I earned a profit of $ 12,000 + $ 7000 commissions, and you company owe me to pay it!!
     
  10. Anatoly M

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    I waiting my money !
     

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