Greg Secker Learn To Trade CONFIRMED FRAUDSTER

sebking1986

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I nearly went there a few years back but decided against it as I had a feeling there would be a massive upsale down the line.
 

SteveFcKay

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Yeah, this guy's annoying - and he's everywhere! I can't get my Youtube videos to stop with his ads! I've attended 3 of his seminars already, including one I attended back in 2016 in South Africa, Centurion. It was facilitated by the Indian guy you've all mentioned above.

They spend the entire 2 hours talking-you-up like they're setting you up to take a stupid leap into something you otherwise wouldn't. It ends up sounding like a motivational talk for the gullible rather than anything else. Mind you, it's sold as a seminar to discuss good trading strategies. They probably spend 5% of the time on trading strategies. And they are purposefully dubious with the details to make it incomprehensible. This all feeds into the 'you need them' story they're pushing. The rest of the time, they're talking-you-up! And I think they keep returning to South Africa because they've found fertile soil of gullible people here. I just get so annoyed, I leave those seminars midway through because I realize it's nothing more than a drawn-out sales pitch. Nothing more!
So why did you go to three of them?
 

Gds58

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Greg Secker Learn To Trade CONFIRMED FRAUDSTER

One word. RUN! Greg Secker Learn to Trade and his cronies such as Gurdas Singh Sidhu are just scammers. Never made a penny trading in their lives.

Very poor training/educational experience; basically just want you to subscribe to their expensive software and use their brokerage firm Capital UK where they make commissions on every single trade you make.

The subscriptions to the useless software (SmartCharts aka SCAM CHARTS) are just another recurring revenue stream for Learn to trade / Greg Secker so he can keep buying expensive SNAKE OIL ads with coded messages of riches e.g. holidays, dream homes, yachts, expensive cars etc and EXPLOITING even more financially VULNERABLE people with a dream to do better until they figure out they are being RIPPED OFF.

Within 10 minutes of a Learn to trade training session, we were asked to go to another room where we were sold an extremely expensive upsell for over £20,000. I was DISGUSTED.

Ever wondered why Learn To Trade / Greg Secker spends a fortune on Youtube ads?


Greg Secker makes huge amounts of money from the vulnerable until they work out they are more BROKE than when they started because they now have huge debts because they lost borrowed money in learning a system rigged to make them lose money!

Got to be one of the biggest scams in history.

Would love to hear other stories of people who have been scammed by this con man Greg Secker.
Thanks for this. I just check out his official account at companies house, and the company is technically insolvent. And the auditors also say that they cannot be certain it is a going concern. If he is so successful why is his company running a near £1 million deficit on its last balance sheet published, for 2019. Why have no further accounts been published to Jan 2022. Be careful.
 

Robindorset

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All these things are a scam and here's why - (I used to work for a Stockbrokers. I am qualified and have certificates to prove it). They are a scam because:- economic/financial news which is reasonably predictable is already "discounted in the price" ie: today's minute by minute price of any asset represents a "fair" value based on all known information and any reasonably predictable information. (predictable news is not therefore news - eg: what will the GDP growth of the USA be for the next 1 - 2 years? - analysts can accurately predict this). Therefore if genuinely new news could be either good or bad (otherwise it's not news), the next price movement of any asset class, stocks, currencies, etc could be either up or down. in other words, in the short term, it's a 50/50 gamble but the psychology of buying and selling will beat you up and almost force you into making losses everytime. ie: you buy at 100p, goes up to 110p, goes down to 95p, Now you want 110p minimum. goes down to 90p, you panic and sell at 90p. goes back up to 105p, you feel sick. I've seen many many clients do this! Also, looking at moving averages, when is a trend a trend? +5%? +10%? How long do you wait to think a trend has been established? then how long do you wait to think the trend is over? by this time there's no profit for you.

There are no trends. it just appears that there are with hindsight when you look at graphs.

The problem is, looking at graphs is hypnotic. The chance of huge profits seem so close when you look at graphs. "If only I'd bought at the previous low and sold at the high. I'll look for the next similar trend and make a killing".

These guys selling courses know this and that's how they can suck people in.

But, think about this... ALL Traders all over the world in all the corporate banks and other financial institutions are LOOKING AT THE SAME GRAPH. They all see the same thing. It's not a secret.
(And they are using the market for genuine purposes. eg: in Brazil they may want to fix their exchange
with the USD for next year so they know they have some profit on their coffee).

You have NO MARKET ADVANTAGE LOOKING AT GRAPHS.

Knowing new news in advance of other people (insider trading which is illegal) or being naturally good at predicting world events is the only way to do really well at this stuff.

Rob - Bournemouth/Dorset.
PS: I suspect during the "live" trading events they put on the live prices are a few seconds behind live. A
bit like in the movie "The Sting" people watching are so concentrating on what they are watching
they don't notice bigger picture.

It's like "The long con" as they called it in the movie. You invest time and money in a big pay-day
in the future.
 

Ninjapeace

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Thanks for this. I just check out his official account at companies house, and the company is technically insolvent. And the auditors also say that they cannot be certain it is a going concern. If he is so successful why is his company running a near £1 million deficit on its last balance sheet published, for 2019. Why have no further accounts been published to Jan 2022. Be careful.
This is because these guys are great at hiding assets. The money goes through capital index which is in cypruss. That’s where the real money is made. The students fees obtained under fraudulent means are simply cattle fodder for furnace of b book profit churning. Nice.
 

Ninjapeace

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All these things are a scam and here's why - (I used to work for a Stockbrokers. I am qualified and have certificates to prove it). They are a scam because:- economic/financial news which is reasonably predictable is already "discounted in the price" ie: today's minute by minute price of any asset represents a "fair" value based on all known information and any reasonably predictable information. (predictable news is not therefore news - eg: what will the GDP growth of the USA be for the next 1 - 2 years? - analysts can accurately predict this). Therefore if genuinely new news could be either good or bad (otherwise it's not news), the next price movement of any asset class, stocks, currencies, etc could be either up or down. in other words, in the short term, it's a 50/50 gamble but the psychology of buying and selling will beat you up and almost force you into making losses everytime. ie: you buy at 100p, goes up to 110p, goes down to 95p, Now you want 110p minimum. goes down to 90p, you panic and sell at 90p. goes back up to 105p, you feel sick. I've seen many many clients do this! Also, looking at moving averages, when is a trend a trend? +5%? +10%? How long do you wait to think a trend has been established? then how long do you wait to think the trend is over? by this time there's no profit for you.

There are no trends. it just appears that there are with hindsight when you look at graphs.

The problem is, looking at graphs is hypnotic. The chance of huge profits seem so close when you look at graphs. "If only I'd bought at the previous low and sold at the high. I'll look for the next similar trend and make a killing".

These guys selling courses know this and that's how they can suck people in.

But, think about this... ALL Traders all over the world in all the corporate banks and other financial institutions are LOOKING AT THE SAME GRAPH. They all see the same thing. It's not a secret.
(And they are using the market for genuine purposes. eg: in Brazil they may want to fix their exchange
with the USD for next year so they know they have some profit on their coffee).

You have NO MARKET ADVANTAGE LOOKING AT GRAPHS.

Knowing new news in advance of other people (insider trading which is illegal) or being naturally good at predicting world events is the only way to do really well at this stuff.

Rob - Bournemouth/Dorset.
PS: I suspect during the "live" trading events they put on the live prices are a few seconds behind live. A
bit like in the movie "The Sting" people watching are so concentrating on what they are watching
they don't notice bigger picture.

It's like "The long con" as they called it in the movie. You invest time and money in a big pay-day
in the future.
Love your anecdote about what genuine reasons for being the market look like. Something you don’t know when you get pulled into nonsense like forex day trading.
 

Velj11

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Greg Secker Learn To Trade CONFIRMED FRAUDSTER

One word. RUN! Greg Secker Learn to Trade and his cronies such as Gurdas Singh Sidhu are just scammers. Never made a penny trading in their lives.

Very poor training/educational experience; basically just want you to subscribe to their expensive software and use their brokerage firm Capital UK where they make commissions on every single trade you make.

The subscriptions to the useless software (SmartCharts aka SCAM CHARTS) are just another recurring revenue stream for Learn to trade / Greg Secker so he can keep buying expensive SNAKE OIL ads with coded messages of riches e.g. holidays, dream homes, yachts, expensive cars etc and EXPLOITING even more financially VULNERABLE people with a dream to do better until they figure out they are being RIPPED OFF.

Within 10 minutes of a Learn to trade training session, we were asked to go to another room where we were sold an extremely expensive upsell for over £20,000. I was DISGUSTED.

Ever wondered why Learn To Trade / Greg Secker spends a fortune on Youtube ads?


Greg Secker makes huge amounts of money from the vulnerable until they work out they are more BROKE than when they started because they now have huge debts because they lost borrowed money in learning a system rigged to make them lose money!

Got to be one of the biggest scams in history.

Would love to hear other stories of people who have been scammed by this con man Greg
Greg Secker Learn To Trade CONFIRMED FRAUDSTER

One word. RUN! Greg Secker Learn to Trade and his cronies such as Gurdas Singh Sidhu are just scammers. Never made a penny trading in their lives.

Very poor training/educational experience; basically just want you to subscribe to their expensive software and use their brokerage firm Capital UK where they make commissions on every single trade you make.

The subscriptions to the useless software (SmartCharts aka SCAM CHARTS) are just another recurring revenue stream for Learn to trade / Greg Secker so he can keep buying expensive SNAKE OIL ads with coded messages of riches e.g. holidays, dream homes, yachts, expensive cars etc and EXPLOITING even more financially VULNERABLE people with a dream to do better until they figure out they are being RIPPED OFF.

Within 10 minutes of a Learn to trade training session, we were asked to go to another room where we were sold an extremely expensive upsell for over £20,000. I was DISGUSTED.

Ever wondered why Learn To Trade / Greg Secker spends a fortune on Youtube ads?


Greg Secker makes huge amounts of money from the vulnerable until they work out they are more BROKE than when they started because they now have huge debts because they lost borrowed money in learning a system rigged to make them lose money!

Got to be one of the biggest scams in history.

Would love to hear other stories of people who have been scammed by this con man Greg Secker.
There is a remedy under the Consumer Protection (Amendment) Regulations 2014 which gives ‘consumers’ new private remedies where a trader ‘lies or uses aggressive commercial practices’. This is a bolt on to the main Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. Basically, people pressurised into buying these courses can ‘unwind’ the contract and get their money back if reported within 90 days or get a discount on what they paid if out of time for example. There are also damages for ‘alarm, distress or physical inconvenience or discomfort’ with a ceiling of £1,000. So, anyone misled into paying for the recent LifeStyle Trader courses 2022 have 3 months to get out of the ‘contract’ and get your money back.
 

Velj11

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Love your anecdote about what genuine reasons for being the market look like. Something you don’t know when you get pulled into nonsense like forex day trading.
This is because these guys are great at hiding assets. The money goes through capital index which is in cypruss. That’s where the real money is made. The students fees obtained under fraudulent means are simply cattle fodder for furnace of b book profit churning. Nice.
There is a remedy under the Consumer Protection (Amendment) Regulations 2014 which gives ‘consumers’ new private remedies where a trader ‘lies or uses aggressive commercial practices’. This is a bolt on to the main Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. Basically, people pressurised into buying these courses can ‘unwind’ the contract and get their money back if reported within 90 days or get a discount on what they paid if out of time for example. There are also damages for ‘alarm, distress or physical inconvenience or discomfort’ with a ceiling of £1,000. So, anyone misled into paying for the recent LifeStyle Trader courses 2022 have 3 months to get out of the ‘contract’ and get your money back.

I am currently investigating the totality of his operation, and liaising with lawyers in the UK and Australia regarding bringing Secker and his operation before the courts. I am both a qualified Barrister and former senior police detective.
 

suelcg

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There is a remedy under the Consumer Protection (Amendment) Regulations 2014 which gives ‘consumers’ new private remedies where a trader ‘lies or uses aggressive commercial practices’. This is a bolt on to the main Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. Basically, people pressurised into buying these courses can ‘unwind’ the contract and get their money back if reported within 90 days or get a discount on what they paid if out of time for example. There are also damages for ‘alarm, distress or physical inconvenience or discomfort’ with a ceiling of £1,000. So, anyone misled into paying for the recent LifeStyle Trader courses 2022 have 3 months to get out of the ‘contract’ and get your money back.

I am currently investigating the totality of his operation, and liaising with lawyers in the UK and Australia regarding bringing Secker and his operation before the courts. I am both a qualified Barrister and former senior police detective.
Can someone please help me! Learn to trade is a joke…All they won’t is $$$$$, I don’t know what to do to get my money back!!!! I have been reading your posts and I feel sick to the stomach. I have paid $20,000.00 Australian to "Learn to trade". $10,000. was meant for training and $10,000. that they have been holding since December last year and said I would be allowed to trade with once I was good enough, within that they would take 20% and I would get 80%. I am sick and was allowed to take my funds out of my Kiwi saver in New Zealand where I live, due to terminal illness. I thought I could turn my money into a little more for my Children. I have handed it all to learn to trade, as they made promises of one-on-one coaching, learning to trade like a professional with the help of their amazing software that I am being charged $149.00 A month for! I paid $5000.00 for the first course, then I got the hard sell on doing the next stage, the first course left me with more questions than answers, I asked how long it would take for me to start using my 10K and was told about 6 months. When you are not well time is very important! They knew I was not well but told me I would pick it up easily and increase my money very quickly. After I had paid them the money I started on the next stage of the course. First thing I was told is that forget everything you were told in the $5000. course as they don't know what they are talking about. My personal coach came on to my smart charts and took everything off that I was told to put on in the first course, told me my charts looked like an aboriginal drawing, and he took what I had put on my charts off. He told me about a holiday and the next 30min lesson about how he missed his daughter. So, I asked for a new coach, over and over and I never got a reply or a new coach. How do you learn when on Monday you are taught something and on Tuesday you are told that is not correct? They are contractors that openly say they don't like using smart charts, and the only thing they have in common is that they don't agree on anything! I knew it would be a waste of time asking for a full refund so I just asked for my money back. The 10K they have taken from me, and I was told 'Further to correspondence and discussions between us this is to advise you that LTT's management has considered your request for a refund but decided not to offer it." A REFUND THEY HAVE 10,000.00 of my money. It was a generic email, they also told me if I wasn't happy go to AFCA and make a complaint. I can't believe in trying to increase my money to leave my Children I have handed it over to such cold heart people who don't care. With living in NZ. I don't know if I should do a complaint from here or in Australia. Any help with this would be much appreciated. I am not meant to be under any stress, and this is keeping me awake at night! I started in December, and I still don't have a trading plan. When I asked my personal coach if we would be making a trading plan, he sent me his. I don't trust them; they make promises that they can't fulfil. None of these people work for learn to trade they are just contractors. I have attached the letter I was sent after I asked for my funds to be returned! I also attached the email I sent them for my money back. And lastly the last email I sent them that they didn't even reply too! These people scam you out of your money by making promises that they don't deliver. I don't normally ask for help but I am beside myself, how could I have been so stupid. Sue
 

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