GUILTY Case# 2011-076 | gaban13 vs www.goldermarkets.com

Based on the available evidence, do you believe that GolderMarkets.com is guilty?

  • Guilty

    Votes: 34 91.9%
  • Not Guilty

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Total voters
    37
  • Poll closed .

Vix

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Added: the logs attached are just the application logs - there is no EA trading activity recorded in the MT4 application log.
Please attach expert logs. You can find them in [your Metatrader directory]\experts\logs
The best covering both normal trading day and the problematic day.
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Is there any use, these can be altered

there is simply not enough evidence showing malpractice, this need stronger evidence
 

gaban13

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Teodor Jackson

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here are the expert logs from 2 accounts.i think the logs file which i attach in my first post is enough to see order history.

Golder Markets misuse their client identity to post in FPA (TanKahSiong) but denied by the original owner.this is very unethical

here is the link to TanKahSiong post http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-forum/scam-alerts-folder/16910-goldermarkets-biz-scam.html
Thanks for the logs.
Could you please tell us how did you manage the accounts?
Was it one MT4 multi-account application or every account run in a separate application? How did the EA propagate the trades through the accounts?
 

Gustaf78327

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I believe gaban13 is a fraud trying to ruin/blackmail goldermarkets!

I believe gaban13 (aka prince rizal - the guy who gave us masyuk ea - a grid bot) is lying to all of us.

Evidence of his deceit is in the golder report. For 3 days all the accounts were trading from the same IP that he claims is not his. 3 DAYS!!![2011.09.05 03:15:21 110.159.13.240 '841571': to 2011.09.08 19:29:17 110.159.13.240 '841571':]. Check the times and dates of all the accounts in the golder report below. I think all the accounts were his & he got greedy and the trades went against his grid bot. Now he's crying foul to blackmail/ruin the brokerages because they screwed him out of his commission.

Evidence of gaban13's deceit is in what he said in the initial post and the golder report that he posted. Just carefully analyze the times and dates & IPs of the golder report of all accounts and go back re-read his first post and you'll see what I'm talking about. I'll repost the report just incase the report should "disappear".


To Asst Admin: I voted guilty accidentally. If it's not too much trouble please subtract my guilty vote! Apologies for any trouble from my screwed up vote. Thanx and keep up the good work everyone at FPA!!! And everyone who participates also! I vote we ban gaban13! :D lol
 

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Teodor Jackson

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Please keep in mind users may not be aware of their public ip.
That's why I asked about server locations. Both the broker and the client.

This is what they said: "In fact, there are apparently 7 accounts concurrently trading on this IP address 110.159.13.240 over the last week including last Thursday incident".
And it's in the journal. Even the one gaban13 saved in case the broker faked them.
But again, this Malaysian ISP may be just some sort of proxy - we don't know what was hooked to this ip. I guess they're dynamically assigned to the ISP customers.

What is your server public ip gaban13?
You can easily verify it by opening this web page in a browser on your server www.mypublicip.com -- Your IP is 76.74.171.98

Did you check for the broker server ip?
 

Teodor Jackson

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I believe gaban13 (aka prince rizal - the guy who gave us masyuk ea - a grid bot) is lying to all of us.
(...) I think all the accounts were his & he got greedy and the trades went against his grid bot. Now he's crying foul to blackmail/ruin the brokerages because they screwed him out of his commission.

Evidence of gaban13's deceit is in what he said in the initial post and the golder report that he posted. Just carefully analyze the times and dates & IPs of the golder report of all accounts and go back re-read his first post and you'll see what I'm talking about. (..)
What if some third party hacked the accounts?
What if the broker faked ip's in the journal?
Can you exclude it? I can't.
 

Gustaf78327

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What if some third party hacked the accounts?
What if the broker faked ip's in the journal?
Can you exclude it? I can't.
For 3 days straight with the same ip for all the accounts at the same times with few seconds difference for different accounts??

Think man! If they faked the ip and the reports then they would be smarter or dumber than that. Like they would all be exact same time in seconds or within milliseconds if they were dumber. Or different ip and times if they were smarter.

Just check all the ips and times/dates for all the accounts in the golder journal report and you'll see. I've attached the golder journal report above. It's the one from gaban13's first post.

Note: You can see he logged off for few hours to tinker with his expert advisor and experimented with a new pair and settings when he relogged. Look at all the pairs on all the accounts he was trading with before and the similarities in trading style along with the ips and the times. It's all in the golder journal report.

You notice he was only complaining about .5 lots trades check the login times and you'll see seconds difference on all accounts. Even the times when the trades were opened have seconds difference. Now they must be incredibly stupid or we're being lied to by gaban13. Cause if they'd fake the ip or trades or journals then they'd be almost exact same time and ip if stupid. Or different times, pairs, and ips if they were more clever.

What I'm trying to say is why few seconds difference? Use your logic. Why not few mins or few hours or few days variance? Or exact time if they are stupid? Why few seconds?

I hope the admin or asst admin reads my past 2 posts and dismisses this case and bans gaban13.
 
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gaban13

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I believe gaban13 (aka prince rizal - the guy who gave us masyuk ea - a grid bot) is lying to all of us.

Evidence of his deceit is in the golder report. For 3 days all the accounts were trading from the same IP that he claims is not his. 3 DAYS!!![2011.09.05 03:15:21 110.159.13.240 '841571': to 2011.09.08 19:29:17 110.159.13.240 '841571':]. Check the times and dates of all the accounts in the golder report below. I think all the accounts were his & he got greedy and the trades went against his grid bot. Now he's crying foul to blackmail/ruin the brokerages because they screwed him out of his commission.

Evidence of gaban13's deceit is in what he said in the initial post and the golder report that he posted. Just carefully analyze the times and dates & IPs of the golder report of all accounts and go back re-read his first post and you'll see what I'm talking about. I'll repost the report just incase the report should "disappear".


To Asst Admin: I voted guilty accidentally. If it's not too much trouble please subtract my guilty vote! Apologies for any trouble from my screwed up vote. Thanx and keep up the good work everyone at FPA!!! And everyone who participates also! I vote we ban gaban13! :D lol
sorry do i know you??maybe you are just another con artist like TanKahSiong paid by Golder Markets to cover their fraud..such a pity
 

Teodor Jackson

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For 3 days straight with the same ip for all the accounts at the same times with few seconds difference for different accounts??

Think man!
I kindly ask you to stop with this kinds of expression.

If they faked the ip and the reports then they would be smarter or dumber than that. Like they would all be exact same time in seconds or within milliseconds if they were dumber. Or different ip and times if they were smarter.

Just check all the ips and times/dates for all the accounts in the golder journal report and you'll see. I've attached the golder journal report above. It's the one from gaban13's first post.

Note: You can see he logged off for few hours to tinker with his expert advisor and experimented with a new pair and settings when he relogged. Look at all the pairs on all the accounts he was trading with before and the similarities in trading style along with the ips and the times. It's all in the golder journal report.

You notice he was only complaining about .5 lots trades check the login times and you'll see seconds difference on all accounts. Even the times when the trades were opened have seconds difference. Now they must be incredibly stupid or we're being lied to by gaban13. Cause if they'd fake the ip or trades or journals then they'd be almost exact same time and ip if stupid. Or different times, pairs, and ips if they were more clever.

What I'm trying to say is why few seconds difference? Use your logic. Why not few mins or few hours or few days variance? Or exact time if they are stupid? Why few seconds?
Can you prove it? Or is it just your speculation?

If you found evidence in the logs please present it instead of asking others to follow your path.
You accused him for lying - please show exactly when and where.

I didn't find enough evidence to support neither the broker fraud, neither the plaintiff fault.
 
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gaban13

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Please keep in mind users may not be aware of their public ip.
That's why I asked about server locations. Both the broker and the client.

This is what they said: "In fact, there are apparently 7 accounts concurrently trading on this IP address 110.159.13.240 over the last week including last Thursday incident".
And it's in the journal. Even the one gaban13 saved in case the broker faked them.
But again, this Malaysian ISP may be just some sort of proxy - we don't know what was hooked to this ip. I guess they're dynamically assigned to the ISP customers.

What is your server public ip gaban13?
You can easily verify it by opening this web page in a browser on your server www.mypublicip.com -- Your IP is 76.74.171.98

Did you check for the broker server ip?
Hi Teodor,

attached is my public ip

"Your IP Address Is 115.135.195.15"
 

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