Huahua290 claims FBS took 3800 USD from his credit card and refused to deposit into my trading accou

Pharaoh

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I think I see a potential source of at least some of this issue.

Skrill now seems to have a "pay via Skrill using your credit card" option which doesn't require having a Skrill account. This is similar to PayPal permitting non-account holders to pay using a credit card. The recipient only sees that the money came from Skrill and sees an email address. The recipient has no easy way to verify the details of the credit card that was used. since the payment came in as a Skrill payment.

As long as the credit card holder doesn't file a complaint, this works fine for purchasing things, whether the credit card holder is the purchaser or an associate of the purchaser. The problem is that refunds (or withdrawals of the initial deposit) usually only go back to the original source, and in this case, the original source is a Skrill payment from an email address that doesn't have a Skrill account.

My recommendation would be for huahua290 to open a Skrill account at that email address.
 

huahua290

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recipient has no easy way to verify the details of the credit card that was used. since the payment came in as a Skrill payment.
Actually, the recipient FBS, in this case, has very easy and straight way to verify the source of the funds - it's coming from someone named Yu Wang:

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And FBS provided this picture themselves in this thread, which clearly shows the name of the money sender doesn't match the name of the trading account! So how is that any hard??

The truth is: FBS failed to conduct basic checks to comply with their responsibility in safeguarding client's funds and in Anti-money Laundering!
 

huahua290

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A The problem is that refunds (or withdrawals of the initial deposit) usually only go back to the original source, and in this case, the original source is a Skrill payment from an email address that doesn't have a Skrill account.
Actually I asked Skrill, and the problem you worried fortunately doesn't exist. In this case, Skrill works only as a credit card payment processor (just like the other normal payment processors you shall run into EVERYTIME when you try to make a credit card payment online). thus when it comes to refund - the refund would go back to the original credit card directly - because it is a credit card payment FBS failed to check!!
 

FBS

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So all accounts traded from the same computer should be from the same person???? Not to mention it's not the first time FBS is accused of making fake things up to scam people!
This is not a problem at all when several people trade on the same computer.

But your accusation at the beginning was that FBS had took 3800 from your credit card and those funds had never been deposited to your trading account, but we proved that those funds had been deposited to trading account 356791, which had been traded from your computer. Even if it weren't you, it was someone who had an access to your computer and your credit card. And it is you who is responsible for safeguarding your personal and financial data.

As I mentioned before, that the payment was made via Skrill. It could be a credit card payment processed via Skrill. But in our system that was an automated deposit via Skrill and all the checks were done but Skrill system.
FBS here is just a money recepient, you should contact your bank or Skrill and clarify this situation. I said before, that in case of withdrawal we always check thoroughly all the payment details and verification, so all the clients' funds are secured.
 
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FBS

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Can I please remind you before you try to lie to the public AGAIN - there's NO Skrill account registered under that email address!

If you decide to continue lying, please get Skrill to simply confirm there's a Skrill account under that email! (I did so myself!)
Could you please prove that? I don't think that Skrill would provide information about its clients to third parties.
 

huahua290

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Could you please prove that? I don't think that Skrill would provide information about its clients to third parties.
What if I can liar? Would you stop lying and return my money you took illegally?? I communicated with Skrill many times via email already and they have confirmed in WRITTING that there's NO skrill account under the email huahua157290@gmail.com!

And you still haven't answered: why did you accept funds from Yu Wang and deposited it into someone else's trading account? Do you call this 'third party payment'?

Please answer clearly and officially by leaving your contact name in FBS, as I already contacted Federal Financial Monitoring Service in Russia regarding this issue as I know your actual office is in in Saint Petersburg петрогратский остров, корпусная улица дом 9.

We will see the authorities would decide if your conduct is breaching Anti-money Laundering laws or not.
 

huahua290

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This is not a problem at all when several people trade on the same computer.

But your accusation at the beginning was that FBS had took 3800 from your credit card and those funds had never been deposited to your trading account, but we proved that those funds had been deposited to trading account 356791, which had been traded from your computer. Even if it weren't you, it was someone who had an access to your computer and your credit card. And it is you who is responsible for safeguarding your personal and financial data.

As I mentioned before, that the payment was made via Skrill. It could be a credit card payment processed via Skrill. But in our system that was an automated deposit via Skrill and all the checks were done but Skrill system.
FBS here is just a money recepient, you should contact your bank or Skrill and clarify this situation. I said before, that in case of withdrawal we always check thoroughly all the payment details and verification, so all the clients' funds are secured.
First of all, let me repeat again - my name is NOT Yu Wang or Lang Li, so I only speak for myself as a client of yours who you failed your responsibility in safeguarding my funds.

Secondly, BOTH withdrawal and deposit should be checked thoroughly - not only withdrawal! So now please stop avoiding the question and answer it: Why did you accepted the funds from Yu Wang and deposited into Lang Li's trading accounts?
 

magdysoliman

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First of all, let me repeat again - my name is NOT Yu Wang or Lang Li, so I only speak for myself as a client of yours who you failed your responsibility in safeguarding my funds.

Secondly, BOTH withdrawal and deposit should be checked thoroughly - not only withdrawal! So now please stop avoiding the question and answer it: Why did you accepted the funds from Yu Wang and deposited into Lang Li's trading accounts?
the answer is simply this fraudent is very easily accept any funds very hardly to release it back to you because they just as any online russian scamer's all over the internet !
 

FBS

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What if I can liar? Would you stop lying and return my money you took illegally?? I communicated with Skrill many times via email already and they have confirmed in WRITTING that there's NO skrill account under the email huahua157290@gmail.com!

And you still haven't answered: why did you accept funds from Yu Wang and deposited it into someone else's trading account? Do you call this 'third party payment'?

Please answer clearly and officially by leaving your contact name in FBS, as I already contacted Federal Financial Monitoring Service in Russia regarding this issue as I know your actual office is in in Saint Petersburg петрогратский остров, корпусная улица дом 9.

We will see the authorities would decide if your conduct is breaching Anti-money Laundering laws or not.
As I already said before, we do not accept payments from the third parties, but in case of an automated payment via electronic payment system it is the payment system responsibility to check all the payment data such as user verification and data comliance. When it is bank wire transfer (non automatical payment), we make all the checks manually.

But why do you ignore the compliance of email addresses? Can different users use the same email address?
Why do you ignore the fact that you are telling everyone here that we had stolen your funds, but the funds were deposited to trading account that was traded from your computer?

Let me clear something, this is nice that you love FBS so much that you created many trading accounts for your own reasons. But this is very nice coincidence, that all these traders Yu Wang (357964), Lang Li (356791), Mingliang Li (351427, 349764), Yunni Long (360309) (her case was declared as Forex Insanity) have trading accounts at FBS. All them are registered under the same IB - Kun Liang.

All these trading accounts were traded from the same computer:
 

FBS

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the answer is simply this fraudent is very easily accept any funds very hardly to release it back to you because they just as any online russian scamer's all over the internet !
It is not hard for traders to withdraw their funds at all. But it is impossible to cheaters to withdraw your personal funds from your trading account at FBS.
 
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