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Micro Account

Discussion in 'Beginners Bootcamp' started by Jobe2433, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Jobe2433

    Jobe2433 Recruit

    Feb 20, 2010
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    ok so this might be a stupid question. But, if I have a micro account and I deposit more money will it gain or lose more? Or do you have to go into a bigger sized account? Hope this makes since.
  2. cowmadagan

    cowmadagan Sergeant

    Dec 23, 2009
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    Ok...it makes sense what you're asking, but it's clear that you're confusing two things.

    To answer first I'll point out that you have to talk to your broker to make sure they don't have some BS rule where after you have a certain amount of cash that you automatically are forced to trade bigger lots. That's probably not the case though.

    As for the confusion, you gain and lose more based on the lot size and the number of lots you use. If anything it's to your advantage to have more money in your brokerage account, for safety, but more money in your account doesn't mean you are risking more per trade.. More money in your account means that you can risk more per trade, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
    The lot sizes are nano, micro, mini, and standard. Gains per pip on EUR/USD are $0.01, $0.10, $1, and $10 respectively for each lot.

    So if your broker doesn't monkey with your lot size, the amount of money in your account has nothing to do with the risk and profit.
  3. Eric Alyea

    Eric Alyea Master Sergeant

    Jun 16, 2008
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    Lot size

    I loved reading that:
    Let’s re-trace the conversation at a different table in the bar drinking beer.
    Tip the waitress??? drop a dollar???
    “How much do you tip”???? Waitress or Broker, Waitress or Broker

    The Question is “How much beer did you “”BUY/SELL”“
    % percentage vs. volume trade???
    % of Account vs. risk factor???
    Account divided by risk equals units risked???
    Money managed equals percent of account risk per divisional amount of account???
    margin, %margin, “Margin hit the button or not”...... “MARGIN die with it or escape”
    Margin..... run away...
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    (what is a margin and why does it take “ALL MY Money")
    Good Question???

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    #3 Eric Alyea, Mar 25, 2010
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  4. West Coast Pips

    West Coast Pips Sergeant

    Sep 24, 2009
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    You may want to look into FXCM. They offer clients the smallest start up account which is a micro one. You can trade fractions of mini lots which makes you lose or gain peanuts. It is great for getting you started with risk management also.

    I started out with Refco many years ago with a mini account and was nervous as hell when live trading 1 mini lot. You got to get your feet wet though. I now trade several standard lots per transaction. It is amazing how your psychology changes over time with the amount of money you are prepared to lose (and gain).

    Having more money in your micro account will not really make much of a difference. I have not come across one broker that pays you interest on your forex account balance. I know FXCM has a cut off point whereby if you have a certain balance in your micro account you have to switch over to a mini one effectively forcing you to make larger trades. I encourage you to get to this stage for your personal growth. Hope that helps.
  5. Agent86

    Agent86 Sergeant

    Sep 9, 2008
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    Forex Confusion on lot sizes and margins etc.


    I've created this calculator to help with this subject of risk and margins

    full lots are 1 micro or fractional lots are .1,.2,.3 etc
    Some brokers don't have a fractional lot system and others do.

    It's the same thing but they just have a separate platform for trading 1 mini lot which is the same thing a .1 fractional lot.

    Anyhow depending on the rules of the broker most have a 1% margin requirement which is at a 100:1 ratio.

    Meaning to trade 100,000 US dollars you will put up 1000 to open a position , well in theory anyhow if the base currency is the US

    But with the EUR/USD it's a little different so I created this calculator to keep me from loosing my mind over this subject.

    See this other post and download my calculator this will give you some visuals on this topic and you can play with it a bit to see how you might trade, and see your sustainable pip loss etc.


    Hope this helps

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