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Anna,

I do see this as a big step forward, but there are some issues remaining.

1. You want the FPA to refute a claim made by FxRingLeader at ForexScamCheck.com.

Strangely enough, the site ForexScam-Check.com not only gave Profit Forex Signals a bogus award, it also calls FxRingLeader a scam. I also see that the award for Profit Forex Signals is still posted.

If you want to seize the moral high ground here, I recommend removing ForexScam-Check.com from the web.

I also suggest you look at the similarities between your site and FxRingLeader's site. If all these other bad things (fake awards, fake reviews, etc.) could somehow happen without you noticing, perhaps some aspects of FxRingLeader's site were also improperly copied.

2. ProfitForex-Signals.com claimed 110,000 Facebook likes yesterday. Today, the site says:

We are recommended by More than 120,000 facebook users which is a commendable feat in itself!

I don't see this as an admission that the "commendable feat" was bought and paid for.

I recommend removing that false claim from your site. You should also contact Face Book and ask how to remove all the likes that correlated to the times your company paid money for likes.

3. I asked how many clients you have or ever had. I don't see an answer.

4. I believe you owe Riviera a public apology for falsely accusing him of photoshopping evidence.

5. I challenged you in December to come up with a $10,000 account and submit it to the FPA's Performance Testing Program.
 
Anna,

I do see this as a big step forward, but there are some issues remaining.

1. You want the FPA to refute a claim made by FxRingLeader at ForexScamCheck.com.

Strangely enough, the site ForexScam-Check.com not only gave Profit Forex Signals a bogus award, it also calls FxRingLeader a scam. I also see that the award for Profit Forex Signals is still posted.

If you want to seize the moral high ground here, I recommend removing ForexScam-Check.com from the web.

I also suggest you look at the similarities between your site and FxRingLeader's site. If all these other bad things (fake awards, fake reviews, etc.) could somehow happen without you noticing, perhaps some aspects of FxRingLeader's site were also improperly copied.

2. ProfitForex-Signals.com claimed 110,000 Facebook likes yesterday. Today, the site says:

We are recommended by More than 120,000 facebook users which is a commendable feat in itself!

I don't see this as an admission that the "commendable feat" was bought and paid for.

I recommend removing that false claim from your site. You should also contact Face Book and ask how to remove all the likes that correlated to the times your company paid money for likes.

3. I asked how many clients you have or ever had. I don't see an answer.

4. I believe you owe Riviera a public apology for falsely accusing him of photoshopping evidence.

5. I challenged you in December to come up with a $10,000 account and submit it to the FPA's Performance Testing Program.

1. Yes, because Fxringleader was first who start war with us. When/If you claim that links is fake, I will remove those links ans shut down that website. Links from Profit Forex Signals are removed.

2. Yes, there is 120,000 likes. We did not bought more then maybe 10.000 likes. Prof that all likes are not false I will attach with this post, prof will show only last 28 days of our active, our ads running on FB from November Facebook.png.

3. It is business secret, why should I tell you that, did I ever ask you, or did you every received question like this "how many advertisers FPA had so far"? But I know that we had only few unsatisfied clients.

4. Yes, I agree with you. Riviera please accept my apologies because I have accuse you that you have photoshopping those images, but in that moment I believed that it is true, once again I am sorry.

5. Yes, it is not problem if your testing program will not show open and active trades, only closed.

Also if you have any doubt or concern please always feel free to contact me, like you see I reply to all question, admit all mistakes, I am not like others who ignore your questions and do not trust to FPA, like you see I give legit to FPA and I try to prove my self, and I am not like 90% forex signals service who ignore their responsibly. So, if I give legit to you, I expect also that in return since that you have see all my business registration data.

Anna
 
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Anna,

I applaud that you paid the overdue refunds to traders. That is a big step towards regaining credibility.

There are still issues.

You promised openness and honesty. I see you side-stepping questions. I expected better than this from you.

1. You appear to be admitting ownership of forexscam-check.com.

You are ignoring the chance to take the moral high ground. You should be grabbing every bit of credibility available to you.

You ignored Pharaoh's suggestion of seeing if there was any merit to their complaint. Would you like me to ask Pharaoh or BigT1 to check and see if it looks like your site copied anything from Fxringleader?

2. I see at least 6 Facebook jobs requested on Freelancer for you. Do you think that a site the size of yours will naturally acquire over 100k Facebook likes?

I don't think the FPA has nearly that many. I don't think very many forex sites in the world have that many.

3. I believe the FPA has had somewhere between 100 and 250 advertisers since we started showing ads. If you really want to know the total, I can ask the ad department.

This doesn't include ads placed in available slots by Google's ads. Only Google itself knows how many different companies have had their ads show up on the FPA that way.

Your site previously claimed over 100,000 clients. At the risk of incurring the Curse of the Pharaoh, I'll rephrase his question...

If you total up each and every client who ever paid for your services, is the total under 10,000 paying clients?

4. Good.

5. You have never raised this objection before. Closed trades always show. The FPA can conceal open and pending orders on request. All that will show in that case is the total floating P/L of those orders. This is laid out in the Performance Testing submission thread.


And one question just from me...

6. You claimed no knowledge of the many lies. How can this be?

You should figured out the awards were fake very quickly based on evidence posted here, but continued to say they were real.

You personally took credit for telling 2 "customers" what to write when 2 identical reviews came in and said they were customers. The wording and error exactly matches one of the jobs on Freelancer.

You claim that the Freelancer jobs were posted by a hired SEO specialist. The username on the Freelancer account seems closely related to someone higher up in your company.
 
Anna,

I applaud that you paid the overdue refunds to traders. That is a big step towards regaining credibility.

There are still issues.

You promised openness and honesty. I see you side-stepping questions. I expected better than this from you.

1. You appear to be admitting ownership of forexscam-check.com.

You are ignoring the chance to take the moral high ground. You should be grabbing every bit of credibility available to you.

You ignored Pharaoh's suggestion of seeing if there was any merit to their complaint. Would you like me to ask Pharaoh or BigT1 to check and see if it looks like your site copied anything from Fxringleader?

2. I see at least 6 Facebook jobs requested on Freelancer for you. Do you think that a site the size of yours will naturally acquire over 100k Facebook likes?

I don't think the FPA has nearly that many. I don't think very many forex sites in the world have that many.

3. I believe the FPA has had somewhere between 100 and 250 advertisers since we started showing ads. If you really want to know the total, I can ask the ad department.

This doesn't include ads placed in available slots by Google's ads. Only Google itself knows how many different companies have had their ads show up on the FPA that way.

Your site previously claimed over 100,000 clients. At the risk of incurring the Curse of the Pharaoh, I'll rephrase his question...

If you total up each and every client who ever paid for your services, is the total under 10,000 paying clients?

4. Good.

5. You have never raised this objection before. Closed trades always show. The FPA can conceal open and pending orders on request. All that will show in that case is the total floating P/L of those orders. This is laid out in the Performance Testing submission thread.


And one question just from me...

6. You claimed no knowledge of the many lies. How can this be?

You should figured out the awards were fake very quickly based on evidence posted here, but continued to say they were real.

You personally took credit for telling 2 "customers" what to write when 2 identical reviews came in and said they were customers. The wording and error exactly matches one of the jobs on Freelancer.

You claim that the Freelancer jobs were posted by a hired SEO specialist. The username on the Freelancer account seems closely related to someone higher up in your company.

1. Ehhh Asst Moderator, when you will figure that I am really honest. Please show me one forex company who are willing to admit mistakes and try to improve that it in public, like me. I see too many open threads here, and only me are willing to provide replies and resolve issues, all other pass like that thread was never opened. If you want to check copies, use copyscape and notice me how many same websites you will find with same or similar content. Forexscam check, if it bothers you, I will order that they shut down it today.

2. Yes, but non of that jobs did not bring 100k likes. I also investigate all of that. All was paid with out my approve.

3. 100k clients. My marketing team post that, when I see that, I have order to remove it immediately, what is done and changed we have more then 100,000 fb likes/recommendation.

5. Great, because I have get reverse information. I hope that in one or two days, we will have open live account trough your test program.

6. Because it was not my job. I do not work with marketing, I do not do SEO, I am not webmaster. And I have give full access to all my staff to bring Profit Forex Signal on top. I really did not know that. So far I must have earn your trust, so I do not see reason that you do not believe me, that when I say I did not know, I defend thinks what I believed that are true.

If I miss something please remind me.

Anna
 
Anna,

So that is confirmation that whoever controls Profit Forex Signals also controls ForexScam-Check, right? Since it was used only to give a fake award to Profit Fx Signal, promote Profit Fx's IB link, and attack FxRingleader, leaving it up and running would be continuing the dishonesty that your company is now trying to get away from.

Will you please personally check FxRingleader's claims carefully? Don't believe anything your fellow employees at ProfitFxSignal tell you. If you are being honest about not knowing so many other things, then it's obvious that other people at your company (including the owner) have been lying to you and instructing you to post false information.

If ProfitFxSignal did copy significant elements of their website, then their attacks would be understandable. Under those circumstances, fixing the issue and sending them a note that all content infringement has been removed would be a far better step than counter-attacking.

I'd still like to know how over 100,000 FB likes happened spontaneously. :p
 
Anna,

Why is forexscam-check.com still up and running? Your company created it to:

a. Give Profit Forex Signals a fake award.
b. Promote the Profit Fx Signal IB link to InstaForex.
c. Hit back at FxRingLeader for what they posted about Profit Forex Signal.

Did you ever bother to check FxRingLeader's claims?

I thought you were attempting to regain some credibility here.
 
Anna,

The steps forward you have taken are all laudable improvements from a very poor beginning. I see your ForexScam-Check.com site has finally gone offline.

The big steps sideways and backwards are not helping to build on these accomplishments. It looks more like "OK, I got some long overdue refunds processed. I'll grudgingly admit to some other stuff, but will still try to shift blame to others and will continue to deny everything else. Since I admitted to some lies (which I claim I thought were true since someone else in the company told me they were), you should trust me completely now."

How can a marketing director not know that awards are fake for as long as you assured everyone that they were real? If you had truly believed that they were real and were physical trophies or certificates, any marketing director would have jumped at the chance to prove me wrong - and found out they were fake very quickly. Instead, you continued to claim they were real for a very long time.

You still haven't given anyone a clue about how the Facebook likes (excluding the 10,000 or so you admit were purchased) happened. There are not too many companies in the world with over 100,000 legitimate Facebook likes. For a small signals service to suddenly get that number is indeed a commendable feat that everyone would like more details on.

You still haven't bothered to comment on whether or not you checked FxRingLeader's claims. Since you claim that so many blatant lies were hidden from you, you obviously can't trust what anyone else at your company tells you about anything. You need to check everything FxRingLeader posted about Profit Forex Signal yourself.

Or, you can skip answering all these questions again and keep tearing pieces off the small amount of credibility your actions have regained for yourself and for Profit-ForexSignals.
 
Pharaoh,
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With all due respect, and with complete agreement that Anna and Ninoslav Golubovic are guilty of having run a self-serving, fraudulent website;
I must ask you to respect they have already admitted to having run that blatantly falsified website in the past, and having operated in an unnecessarily defensive posture for much of their existence.
They have admitted to such, and have begun to take action at our sole request to correct their admittedly reprehensable behavior!!
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I believe they are in the process of trying to correct their former actions, and are attempting to emerge from the pits of slavery and join the free world.
I have asked that we draw a sharp line of demarcation between their past years and their forward conduct.
Can you cite any other firm that in the past has agreed to comply with FPA requests, and revise their business model in accordance with FPA standards?
No one will be looking more closely at their forward actions than shall I; and should they wander and choose to violate our trust in their contrition, be more severe in my condemnation.
Yes, they are not yet perfect, but for one, I am anxious to see if such a "New World Welcome" can actually be extended, and somehow accomplished within my lifetime.
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Please consider making your complaints in private; so Ana, her husband and firm, are permitted the opportunity they are desperately attempting to earn; to accept, correct, or reject our demands, before we find it necessary to impose further public ridicule.
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AI
 
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I can name one right off the bat. FigFx processed many refunds at the request of myself as well as a member of the Scam Investigations Team. They also made many changes to their Terms of Service to make those terms much more fair to traders. Then they fell off the web, never to be heard from again.

I am not attempting to ridicule Anna. I am attempting to get the truth. What I have seen so far are good steps to remove some false information, but these are packaged up with explanations that do not match the facts at hand.

Certain info was agreed to be kept private and I have respected that. If Anna wants to earn credibility after everything else, I don't believe that asking for public statements on remaining issues is a bad thing. The only way forward in this case is transparency. It's up to Anna to EARN trust.
 
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