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SunbirdFx and YouTradeFx- What's the real relationship?

Discussion in 'Scam Alerts' started by Pharaoh, May 29, 2015.

  1. Pharaoh

    Pharaoh Colonel

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    I think this issue deserves its own thread.

    Let's look at what's been said so far.

    November 2014:
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    Ron, I think either you are lying to me or your bosses are lying to you.

    Allow me to verify the Whois information showing SunbirdFx.com being under the direct control of YTFX. Historical whois records show that from at least 2014-12-18 to 2015-03-05, SunbirdFx.com's contact information was:

    Registrant Name: Sunbird FX
    Registrant Organization: Sunbird International Ltd
    Registrant Street: 14 Hamefalsim (amefalism in some records)
    Registrant City: Petach Tikva
    Registrant State/Province:
    Registrant Postal Code: 11111
    Registrant Country: IL
    Registrant Phone: +972.25555555
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax:
    Registrant Fax Ext:
    Registrant Email: it@ytfx.com

    I'm attaching a screenshot for further confirmation.

    Please explain why SunbirdFx.com's domain name was under the direct control of YTFX's IT department if there is no relationship between the two companies.

    Sunbird-YTFX.

    It looks to me like SunbirdFx didn't buy YouTradeFx. It looks more like YouTradeFx bought SunbirdFx.
     
  2. AsstModerator

    AsstModerator FPA Forums and Reviews Admin

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    Ron,

    I got 2 emails from you and replied to both. There was no response.
     
  3. Pharaoh

    Pharaoh Colonel

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    Hello Ron! How long does it take to explain away the fact that your company and YouTradeFx appear to now be inextricably linked?
     
  4. Master Yoda

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    I have sent a withdrawal request to SunbirdFX over 2 weeks ago and now I have difficulty getting hold of them. About a week ago someone from YouTradeFX phoned me and said that they have bought SunbirdFX and they will be dealing with the withdrawal and until SunbirdFX pay over the deposits to YouTradeFX then I can't draw my money. When I have managed to get hold of the chat line on a few occasions they have said my withdrawal is in progress, first it was 2-4 days and now 14 days, but no one contacts me to let me know what is going on.
     
  6. Pharaoh

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    And where did SunbirdFx's rep go?

    As far as I'm concerned, there's enough evidence to prove the 2 companies are working together. It really doesn't matter which one bought the other.
     
  7. Pharaoh

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    Ron's continued silence speaks volumes.
     
  8. ronp

    ronp SunbirdFx Representative

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    Hi Everyone,

    Sorry for the delay, just saw the post now after posting a comment to Pharaoh.

    on whois i get that,

    Domain Name: SUNBIRDFX.COM
    Registrar: 101DOMAIN, INC.
    Whois Server: whois.101domain.com
    Referral URL: http://www.101domain.com
    Name Server: NS1.101DOMAIN.COM
    Name Server: NS2.101DOMAIN.COM
    Name Server: NS5.101DOMAIN.COM
    Status: ok
    Updated Date: 21-feb-2011
    Creation Date: 27-sep-2010
    Expiration Date: 27-sep-2016

    no youtradefx.

    AsstModerator: i haven't received any reply for my emails from you.

    As i explained in the mail i sent to Forex peace army 5 months ago, sunbirdfx bought youtradefx technology(CRM, Marketing platforms). youtradefx is a big company with a sarong technologycal system and the deal was based on it. sunbirdfx didn't took charge on the firm or otherwise.

    It might be, that the historical info on whois was because of the technical platforms we upgraded.

    That's the only deal we had.

    i'd like also to mention couple of facts, Me and others in sunbirdfx try the best to provide good service to our clients (you can view the amount of posts that are being replied and clients change their post for the best). It is true that in the beginning of the year when we changed the website home page and platform design, it caused some troubles. There were clients who could not login to their accounts, but we manage to fix the problem and to go back on tracks.

    As a trader, i appreciate a lot this forum and its stars rank.

    We don't deserve 5 star rank yet, but we surely working on it.

    I hope this info helps.

    Thanks
     
  9. AsstModerator

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    Upgrading technical platforms would not trigger any need to change the WhoIs contact information. An employee of YouTradeFx was the primary contact for SunbirdFx.com's domain name for over 2 months.

    If you bought YouTradeFx's technology, what happened to YouTradeFx's clients and employees?

    I'm reasonably sure YouTradeFx's mail server was blocking FPA messages. Maybe you are using it now.
     
  10. Prem Kumar Ramamurthi

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    Dear Rep,
    How come in the world the whois record gets updated or tampered when the technical platforms gets upgraded / updated / reworked. There is no connection unless and until a human intervention is made. Also you have posted the current whois record of SUNBIRDFX, kindly check the attachment of pharaoh in the first post where it clearly shows YOUTRADEFX mail id linked to the SUNBIRDFX domain.

    Also AsstModerator was trying to get in touch with SUNBIRDFX / YOUTRADEFX for solving traders issue, but it was in vain. Moreover, even the representative was missing for a long time. Now you have come up some brilliant answer.

    Hurray... We all here are lame and blind to see the fact in first post
     

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