WinningTradersAssociation.com Review

WTA IS FOR SALE Now all that paid for a useless Lifetime membership are being Sold

Or go to the info page at the top of this site.
http://www.winningtradersassociation.com

Income from Winning Trader's Association (WTA)

2005........$43,524.00
2006........$99,228.00
2007........$170,216.00
2008........$119,241.00
2009........About $120,000 (will let you talk to my CPA)

Dear WTA members and fellow traders,

TEAM UP WITH WTA MEMBERS AND TAKE TRADING TO THE NEXT LEVEL!!

See the info here.
http://flippa.com/auctions/85989/FIVE-YEAR-OLD-COMPANY--Forex-Traders-Club-with-11000-plus-subscribers-

Or go to the info page at the top of this site.
http://www.winningtradersassociation.com

BID AND WIN THIS AUCTION AND TEAM UP WITH
WTA MEMBERS TO TAKE TRADING TO THE NEXT LEVEL!

WTA members have been talking to me with trading
ideas that they think will take WTA to the next level.
I hope that the right person jumps on this and takes
it to the sky. I could take this to the next level but I
will take a little break if a good person takes it and
runs with it. If I do not fine a taker I plan to relaunch
within about a month or two.

Taker Or Not I Am With WTA!

I want to stay on as a WTA member and I look
forward to improving my trading as I continue
to learn from WTA members.

WTA Will Be MUCH Bigger Than 11,000 Subscribers!

We have a lot of new traders coming into forex
each day so I believe that WTA will grow fast.

Why Am I Putting WTA Up For Auction?

I have been behind the computer and on the phone
for the last five year s and need a break from it. I
want to keep trading but need a break from reading
e-mail and being on the phone.

I USED THE PHONE A LOT BUT YOU DO NOT NEED TO!

I think having a good forum to communicate with your
members is just as good as talking on the phone so
you would not need to do what I did. The winner of this
auction is starting his/her club with 11,000 plus
subscribers!!

About Winning Trader's Association (WTA)

We started Winning Trader's Association about five
years ago to find traders who are making money.
Our first strategy was an NFP news trading strategy.
We have created two EAs (MT4 robots) to trade
the NFP. We called these robots E-Trader and
Super E-Trader.

List Of Assets That Will Be Transferred To You As The Winner Of This Auction

List of Robots (MT4 EAs).

1. E-Trader (To manually put on a straddle just before news comes out).
2. Super E-Trader (Set the time that you want the straddle put on so you do not need to be there).
3. Checkmate (This EA is a tool that lets you automate a counter trend strategy).
4. Double Eagle (Trend/breakout EA).

List Of Websites.

URL 1. http://www.winningtradersassociation.com
Creation Date........ 2004-12-31

URL 2. http://www.1234trade.net (I give this URL to members and traders as it is easier than
the long URL. 1234trade.net takes you to .winningtradersassociation.com/etrader but you
can make it go to any page that you wish).

URL 3. http://www.wtafx.com (takes you to http://www.winningtradersassociation.com/gf again
you can make it go to any page that you wish).

Mailing List.

The 11,000 plus subscribers have opted in from the Winning Trader's Association
website. I use a mailing system that is very easy to use but will be happy to show
you how to use it.

Revenue Details
Income from Winning Trader's Association (WTA)

2005........$43,524.00
2006........$99,228.00
2007........$170,216.00
2008........$119,241.00
2009........still working on last year (will let you talk to my CPA)

I will be happy to show you the tax returns or
let you talk to my CPA.

Traffic Details
Money Spent For Google Pay Per Click (PPC) Advertising.

I spent to build the list so you do not need to.

You can see attachments which shows the PPC amount.

2005........$13,154.95
2006........$71,143.29
2007........$44,343.60
2008........$8,547.66
2009........$3,303.31
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PPC Total $140,492.81

I'd like to say that I have known of the wtafx site for over two years and have gotten emails from mr.beiler(john) to let me know of the progression of the EA's offered and the escalation of pricing of membership and products and only recently joined his new groundbreaking program that let's you trade a live $1000.00 acct. at no risk of loss to one's self monetarily.Further I'd also like to say that over the past two years I have called and spoke with John many times to ask for forex trading information,all the while him knowing that I'm not a member but always took the time to speak with me and answer my questions and there were times I called and left a message and he always has returned my calls,...as for his new champion traders program I have been on many of the calls and to date all responses have been beyond favorable,lot's of new traders learning how to trade for the first time in their lives and at no risk and many traders with a lot of good knowledge to share with the new traders so all I am saying here is that from my experience with wtafx.com has been all win,win,win and I'm very glad that I joined this program and it has been a very good thing for me and for some friends of mine that joined also,...as for the negative post that I have read here I think some people have a hard time accepting responsibility for their own shortcomings,...may all your trading days end pips plus!!! charlie b.

I am a victim and agree with Anil completely. He took me for $1398.00 for his worthless Double Eagle and Check Mate software. Now when I email him there is no response. His co-conspirator Jim is as big a Jacka** and liable as he is. Stay away from this criminal enterprise. They know nothing about forex. They got a hold of some cheap grid trading software and are trying to pass it off as legit. Now he is trying to sell this c*** to institutions - what an idiot. Karma is gonna catch up with this thief. Pure scam.

Please do not fall for the money back guarantee trap. I have made several follow Ups for refund after my demo account didnt show promising results with the new Double Eagle robot . No response from John . Is there any way i can get my money back ?
This man does business in an unethical way. Recommend to stay away from WTA.

SCAM. Forget the money back guarantee - you'll never get it.

scam, he just sets up a bunch of demo accounts and when one or two of them do well he e-mails you showing how good it is doing. He then temps you by saying the price of the trading robot is going to go up in the next few weeks (typical scam tactic).
Well I followed his trading accounts for a good long time and then of course the accounts eventually crashed and burned.

I'll give him this ... his talent is feeding you a line...because I almost bought it...

big scammer

His old robot blew up his account and now he is trying to sell a new one called the double eagle. I bet it goes to pot too.

Total Scam, I watched his live account grow little by little, he kept advertising it, adding more cash, sending out spam email saying "Look, it's doing great!" and than, a few weeks ago, the account went from 12000 down to 40USD. What a joke, stay away.
P.S. i think he is pushing a new system now...

I would NOT recommend this system for anyone who has traded for awhile. The only useful aspect to joining WTA is being able to pick up the phone and call someone with your NOOB forex questions like how to setup an EA.

Now, the trading systems he offers are a complete joke. The main one I have a problem with is the CM (Checkmate) strategy which is basically a grid EA that he stole from a former member. The truly funny thing about this is that he keeps creating new demo accounts to post the results of the EA. If it does good, he sends out 3 emails a week telling everyone to look. If it does bad, he just creates a new demo account to post the results it. Classic "Bait and Switch".

More than a product, this is an association, offering the structure of phone meetings to go over and share strategies and commentary. It is a small price to pay for lifetime access to conversation with other traders.
I learned forex on my own one week, found and joined WTA the next week, and the phone conversation prepared me to trade the news the next day. I more than doubled my initial $300 account in one trade, then doubled it again. So my membership was a small price to pay.
On the weak side, I often don't have time for the phone calls, and can't always keep up with the phone numbers and website changes. But John always calls back if I don't get him when I call. I also learn best by reading, so that makes this method not as effective for me. But when I do get on the calls, I usually learn a point or two.
Don't think of this being about John. He is limited in being accessible as it gets bigger, and members who do well take over certain responsibilities. It is a free form association of traders and sometimes the nature of it is difficult. Other times, it is genius. I can understand people's frustrations, and probably some are lost in the shuffle, but it is far from a scam. There has been pressure to raise the price to limit membership, and most prefer to keep the price lower to make it more accessible.
Those who are loosing money on the news strategy are using brokers who widen the spread during news. Finding a broker that doesn't increase spreads will fix that.

I bought his system when it first came out, I got it at a really low price back then (for about $60.00). He told me he was using a broker that didn't make sense to me, so I suggested a more 'reputable' broker. When he changed over to it, he gleefully anounced to everyone that he had found a better broker (not giving me any credit of course!)I didn't really have any success with it, but I can hardly label it a scam sense I had seen some trades hit, some didn't. The only problem I have with John is that he is soo anoying. I didn't bother asking for my money back.