GUILTY Case# 2015-062 | naveen1020 vs bancdebinary.com

Based on the available evidence, do you believe that BancdeBinary.com is guilty?

  • Guilty

    Votes: 69 98.6%
  • Not Guilty

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .
Loss is a relative thing,here where i live a 1000$ equals 5 months salary,in other places it is only tow hours work,it doesn't matter how much they stole from you ,the principle is still the same,if they cheat on 14 they will cheat in 100000$.
 
Hello everybody , pharaoh
This is lojina pharoah I have samillar case with banc de binary, and I am sure ther are a scammer, I lost around $10000 dollars with the same way....
Pharoah, why you leave those people playing with our money?
How there is no any action taken against those?

The FPA doesn't work in a vacuum. It reacts to trader complaints. Scam Findings have been based on Traders Court verdicts for years now. Although I am personally convinced that Banc de Binary is a scam, I also know the FPA won't slap that label on it until a 3rd guilty verdict comes in. If more victims had bothered to gather evidence to file strong cases and stick around to support the cases, BDB could have earned a scam finding quite some time back. They didn't. How is that my fault or the fault of the FPA?

In the meantime, the BDB review page at the FPA has had many warnings placed in it. The low rating itself is a warning to all who would look. Plus, the FPA did a great deal to publicize the continuing CFTC actions against Banc de Binary and it's CEO.
 
This is a great story to tell your grand kids one day. How you lost 100k in ?3.5 hours? of gambling in an unregulated online casino. because, that's literally all these binary "brokers" are.
 
The FPA doesn't work in a vacuum. It reacts to trader complaints. Scam Findings have been based on Traders Court verdicts for years now. Although I am personally convinced that Banc de Binary is a scam, I also know the FPA won't slap that label on it until a 3rd guilty verdict comes in. If more victims had bothered to gather evidence to file strong cases and stick around to support the cases, BDB could have earned a scam finding quite some time back. They didn't. How is that my fault or the fault of the FPA?

In the meantime, the BDB review page at the FPA has had many warnings placed in it. The low rating itself is a warning to all who would look. Plus, the FPA did a great deal to publicize the continuing CFTC actions against Banc de Binary and it's CEO.

Thank you every one for the contribution and especially for FPA. Going forward, I will be away from these brokers.

@sandowner, @Naadhan and @adjabi, Can you file a case to get more cases registered. Pharaoh, will this help to categorize it as a scam. I have also asked another on-line victim to file a case here.

Note: Yesterday, the complaint department came out to pay a sum of 1729.81, which I rejected and filed a case with cysec.

Below are the few e-mail cut outs I received from BancDeBinary on FPA. We shouldn't leave such firms.

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On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:08 PM, complaints <complaints@bbinary.com> wrote:
Hi

Could you please send me the skype conversations you advised of.
The forexpeacearmy site is well known as a scam site. I am interested in the evidence you have that was actually sent or said by our company.

Kind regards,

Tracey
Banc De Binary
Email: complaints@bbinary.com
European & Middle Eastern Headquarters
www.bbinary.com
Phone: +35725246300

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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Danny Goldman <dannyg@bbinary.com> wrote:
Just so you know FPA is a blackmail scam which is well known for their criminalized CEO who is banned in the U.S.

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Thanks

Danny
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The waters where sharks like these BBinary guys are allowed to swim with the sheep like you, Naveem, is exactly why US govt is putting such restricting regulations on all brokerages, unfortunately the legit ones too.
They probably all gave you their pseudonyms while contacting you thru Skype. I doubt you could prove to Cysec or any court that you actually corresponded with "account managers" from the aforementioned company (just based on the last post you pasted here)...
I really hope you recover at least a portion of the money lost.
 
Ok.. Leave it..No point arguing with you. This is the default word "you gambled your money", when brokers empty our accounts. If this is the case, he don't have right to run the business. 80, 20% should be applied on individual accounts. I know they will sink for everyone and say the same stories to all.
Learn to earn ethical way (not to cheat others). When 65 people vote for something and 1 vote for other, we know who need psychologist.

Well, please, everyone, do not expect from someone to tell you whether to bet on red or black before the roulette is spinned when playing in casinos. If there are some people who "help" you in taking a decision, it won't be their fault in case of a loss. It is your decision whether to listen to them or take your own decision. You take the risk in any outcome!!!
In Forex and derivaties, it is the same. There are hundreds of signal providers who send very good signals but if you don't adjust the settings as per your account, it is sure that you will lose.
Naveen had himself asked for help several times, he had asked for signals and he had bought several options...he had just decided to follow manager's style instead of taking his own risk and face the markets himself.
Brokers are not responsible for sending wrong signals or analyzes to your email inbox or in Skype convos. This is not regulated by ANY regulator. This is the way this business retain clients. You can read analyzes and accept signals, but in the end, you are a market participants. Some traders win, others lose!

I hope you get your money soon from this scammers naveenm,i am quite experienced in forex and binary options and would like to tell you to be cautious in the future that there is nothing as a 100% or even 80% winning signals,no one in this planet knows where is the market is going to go next minute or next hour and if anyone in the world managed to know that accurately he will be richer than Bill Gates in 2 days so any company or any person tells you that they have 100% winning signal they r 100% scammers.

This is the reason why we should learn to lose instead of opening cases against brokers. Their duty is to open your orders as per your requirements. If you face loss, brokers have nothing to do with that. This is because of your wrong predictions and forecasts.

This is lojina pharoah I have samillar case with banc de binary, and I am sure ther are a scammer, I lost around $10000 dollars with the same way....
Pharoah, why you leave those people playing with our money?
How there is no any action taken against those?

@adjabi,

Neither FPA, nor any other forum or social group could ever do something to prevent people from making deposits. If the situation develops and somehow FPA has 3 guildy verdicts and a scam finding is published, it doesn't mean that the company will stop playing with clients. Before even make a deposit, everyone should carefully look for some information where his/her money are going and risk as much as you can afford to lose!
If someone wants to make some serious money, binary options brokers are not the way to do that.
Anyway, you are more than welcome to open your own case and provide us with some evidence in your favour.
 
Does this look familiar, Naveem? That's the kind of people you've dealt with. Now imagine what Jordan Belfort, the scamer broker that was played by Leo Dicaprio here could have gotten away if he was operating his scam as an unregulated "broker" who will never have to face the persecution of FBI.....
The only thing you could do right now is never shut up about this or go away until you get back at least a portion of your lost earnings back from these scammers. And consult a lawyer too, preferably one that specializes in online fraud.
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Well, please, everyone, do not expect from someone to tell you whether to bet on red or black before the roulette is spinned when playing in casinos. If there are some people who "help" you in taking a decision, it won't be their fault in case of a loss. It is your decision whether to listen to them or take your own decision. You take the risk in any outcome!!!
In Forex and derivaties, it is the same. There are hundreds of signal providers who send very good signals but if you don't adjust the settings as per your account, it is sure that you will lose.

So you agree you are gambling with clients money and not investing as you compare this with roulette. Better close your business or inform clients clearly that it is a casino and not an investment/brokerage firm and no guaranteed profits.

This is the reason why we should learn to lose instead of opening cases against brokers. Their duty is to open your orders as per your requirements. If you face loss, brokers have nothing to do with that. This is because of your wrong predictions and forecasts.

Are you afraid of potential charges against brokers. All such firms should be closed, who are not responsible, else their duty is to just cheat. Yes, my wrong prediction is to trust their lovely words (VIP accounts blah blah...).

@adjabi,

Neither FPA, nor any other forum or social group could ever do something to prevent people from making deposits. If the situation develops and somehow FPA has 3 guildy verdicts and a scam finding is published, it doesn't mean that the company will stop playing with clients.

Yes, unfortunately such firms will still play with clients money. But if FPA categorizes it as scam firm, atleast we can save majority. I will just do my best to pass this message.

regards
Naveen
 
So you agree you are gambling with clients money and not investing as you compare this with roulette. Better close your business or inform clients clearly that it is a casino and not an investment/brokerage firm and no guaranteed profits.

If you expect to deny that binary options are not some sort of gambling, I cannot do that. It is pure gambling as your optoin is to rely on chances! That's why I overreacted when I read how much money you have put there, risked everything, accumulated over 100% profit and didn't request a withdrawal. If it was refused to be processed by the company, I would have voted differently. You just failed yourself that if you request a withdrawal, you will lose which is some sort of deception. Prove that you have really been scammed by this company and I can always change my vote. Evidence uploaded are enough to vote in favour of company because I receive calls like you, at least 10 per day, with requests to make immediate deposit worth $5,000. Firstly, I cannot risk so much money and secondly, if I could afford such risk, I wouldn't choose to gamble them. There are lots of ways to invest wisely even $5,000 and earn a nice interest, as profit here is guaranteed! By buying an option, you just insure youself against harsh market movements but what we are talking about is called "binary options" and it is a derivative of normal bank options. It means that the risk for you doubles! You cannot expect profits when the risk is so high. The only chance to succeed is to decrease the risk, something that you have missed by relying on strangers, claiming that they work for certain company. How you could be so sure that they really work there?! :confused:

Are you afraid of potential charges against brokers. All such firms should be closed, who are not responsible, else their duty is to just cheat. Yes, my wrong prediction is to trust their lovely words (VIP accounts blah blah...).
Yes, unfortunately such firms will still play with clients money. But if FPA categorizes it as scam firm, atleast we can save majority. I will just do my best to pass this message.

Naveen, FPA has already sent so many good and financially stable forex brokers to the scam thread for no reason. I can quote at least 3 which are not involved in any scam but were classified as scam because some clients think that brokers are responsible for their loss even when clients are not familiar with financial markets and don't read what brokers offer (or insist on) in their Public agreements or Terms&conditions. Clients are always compaining from requoting or slippage but don't understand that evey technical system has its good and bad sides. That's why there're thousands of forex brokers...

I've also experienced too many problems with forex brokers but I haven't opened cases against them because I have previously read and understood their terms. Moreover, I have agreed to trade with them. Recently, I was scammed by a binary options broker and I had the right to argue with them so I opened a case against them. Since voting was again in my favour, the case was closed but still there are many cases against them comming every month. Believe me, even you ask them whether the case published here is a true one, companies will always tell you that FPA is a criminal website OR they have paid for this black PR OR any other excuse to make you deposit with them. If they don't, another company will take their profit.
A week ago, a person called me and start explaining how profitable he was, then asked me to make a deposit with his company. I completely refused to make any deposit and he even started to yell at me. My reaction was obvious, just ring off!
Instead of asking for a bonus, you should do the same even before the person from the company ask you to lie your bank to raise your limits. At least, this is very essential lesson for you and all FPA members. Companies become more aggresive when it comes to stealing competitors' money, they will offer you incredible amount of bonuses to withdraw from their competitors and put your money to them. But who knows who is a scammer nowadays. I was
aghast to know that one of the biggest forex brokers scammed so many people (IronFx). And they have been sponsoring FC Barcelona for a very long time...they really benefited from this PR action! It is sad.

Better luck next time...
 
If you expect to deny that binary options are not some sort of gambling, I cannot do that. It is pure gambling as your optoin is to rely on chances!

Better luck next time...


I will leave it here, where your opinion is that BO's is gambling. For me it is not.

Also for all FYI, here is the extract I found from Binary Option Fraud Scam Alert By CFTC | Apex Investing Institute. Going forward, I will be away from all BO's.

Refusing to credit customer accounts,
Denying fund reimbursement,
Identity theft, and
Manipulation of software to generate losing trades (Could be my case)
Misleading return payouts (My case)

Bonus structures and other practices that are meant to entice more funds from clients and make it more difficult to withdrawal them
Not Being Registered with the CFTC/SEC and offering contracts to US Citizens
 
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