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First, rumors on that maybe my programs didn't start out like scams and are scams right now because I'm still accepting members are false. 10kto1mm stopped accepting members since Nov. of 2010, and CSR has stopped accepting members since the last launch, which is March of 2011. I have not been promoting neither programs until they are in profits.
Henry, why then are the websites for 10kto1mm and CSR still up (as at 31 July 2011, 1800 ET)? With you spouting all your positive promotional material on them. And worse, soliciting names/email from people who may be interested. In actual fact, you know the dismal cumulative performance of these programs, but nowhere in these 2 websites is that reflected. So you ARE still promoting these programs, and indirectly, any other services associated with you through these 2 webpages. That IS misleading advertising!
Sixth, There are also other people in this thread who saw the inconsistencies and made a few comments about it. They were attacked immediately. If you want to sound reasonable without any agenda, then you need to let other people talk. By shutting down every single person who has a different opinion than you, you are in essence demonstrating that the real purpose of this thread is to bash Henry Liu. It is the goal of this thread, after all, isn't it?
Are you referring to hoskos (posts #81 and #84) and Jason (post #93) who spoke in your favor? If you looked at their posts and the words (joker, idiot, fool, turds, 90 IQ, script kiddie, retarded, intellectually disenfranchised, dumb, etc) they used against other people, who is attacking who? Of course I replied sharply and they are free to reply as well. Nobody is shutting them down.
Ninth, 10kto1MM did reach phase I, we turned $10,000 into $14,600, and we started phase II. Then it did not do so well. But it is a lie for anyone to deny that we never reached Phase I. So that's another scam claim busted.
Henry, here is where your ugly dishonest intent is seen. The fact that you only highlight positive history, but withhold the ugly current performance in the 10kto1mm website is fraud. Have you heard of the concept called mark-to-market? Why don't you show the live statement results and let people judge for themselves?
Tenth, someone mentioned that I've guaranteed that we will reach 300K in return. That's not true. I said in the webinar that although I cannot guarantee anything, I do believe that there is a possibility to reach 300K. Let me add that I still believe we could do it.
That someone is me. As I mentioned in post #76, I attended your webinar and you used words akin to guaranteeing to reach 300K, if not 1 million. At that time, many potential subscribers like myself were rightly sceptical of being able to reach 1 million from 10K. Therefore, your "assurance" of reaching 300K, if not 1 million, was the final deal clincher for us. Of course I do not have the concrete proof of this, but if you have a recording of that webinar, pls send it to me. If I am wrong about this, you have my apologies.
The people who stayed, and there is a good number of them, are profitable. I have emails and testimonials to say that. But of course, if I post them here, people "who attack anyone without reason" will just say that they are made up... But it is a question that I must ask, why do people stay when the program is considered failure? And the answer, the most likely answer, is that the program is working for them... Think about it...
How could people make money from the programs if your own live statements show negative? Don't your live statements show all the signals provided by your programs. Are you implying that people could be profitable if they only took the profitable signals and not the losing ones? Or some people who joined the program later and fortuitously avoided the great DD trades? What a laugh! Furthermore, you assume wrongly that people stay cos the program is working for them. If you read the posts, many stayed hoping that the program would turnaround and recoup the losses, and you like to feed their hopes of future performance, even now.
Last but not least, let me just say that I sympathize those of you who have lost money in my services. It was never my intention and I am going to bring them back to profits as soon as I can. For those who have already left my services, what I can do for you is that I will be offering more resources on trading in the future, and that hopefully they will be able to help you in anyway possible, as you are free to use them as you see fit...
I don't understand why you still persist in wanting to offer your services in forex. With your history in Collective 2, Mr X, 10kto1mm, CSR, etc. All resulted in massive losses for your subscribers, with no direct apology or compensation from you. Nobody gives a cracked dime for your "sympathy". Any ordinary forex trader who suffered a period of bad trading would switch to demo until he/she had solved the issue to be consistently profitable, and then only return to live trading. Not you it seems, who did not learn from past mistakes, and continue to inflict losses on subscribers and hatch new schemes.