Netotrade: a SCAM

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Hi Forex Peace Army,

Below is some emails that I have sent to Netotrade after I was fleeced by Alan Levine, the con-artist at Netotrade who fleeced me out of 25,000 pounds.
I am ashamed to say that I was fleeced. Pure and simple.
Now that I know how Forex works, if I was starting today, I would be Ok. It is a crying shame that this industry is riddled with rip off merchants whose sole ambition is to take your money.
Since these events took place I have been trying to get back on my feet again. Difficult, in a foreign country.
I feel traumatised by what happened, and not able, and not in the mood, to talk about it. However, I put this case forward to warn others that a FOREX Broker is a very good place for a bunch of con artists to gather in order to grab some money fast. That is the way the FOREX industry works, it would seem.

Here are some letters that I have sent to Amy T, the person who deals with fall-out at Netotrade, after Alan Levine has skimmed the cream off the victim.
It is a very well prepared company that is obviously well accustomed to dealing with upset slients.

John Lowe.


To: amy.t@netotrade.com


Hello Amy,

I would very much like to know how you intend to help me after all the mess that Mr. Alan Levine has put me in.
A refund plus the overdraft expenses would be a good way to start.

With regards,
John Lowe

John Lowe +44 (0)208 12345 50


From: john.lowe@hotmail.com
To: amy.t@netotrade.com
Subject: FW: We have tried to reach you
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 04:27:07 +0000




Take a look at these messages that he sent me.
I told him that I didn't want to add any more to the account. But he carried on insisting!

"Yes, it will all work out fine!", he says, as he slowly puts me deeper and deeper in the manure.

[2014/4/15 21:10:00] John Lowe: hello Alan.
[2014/4/15 21:10:26] John Lowe: Can you help me to get out of this pile of manure you've put me in please?
[2014/4/16 17:38:19] alan levine: Please let me know when I can call you.
[2014/4/16 18:03:05] alan levine: hi
[2014/4/16 18:03:12] alan levine: i dont have a camera
[2014/4/16 18:04:30] John Lowe: Hi Alan,
[2014/4/16 18:05:17] John Lowe: I am in Chiina now. Anyway. I have set up my trading with a computer and am ready to go.
[2014/4/16 18:06:10] John Lowe: but I have been struggling with the XAUUSD and XADUSD...
[2014/4/16 18:07:02] alan levine: hey
[2014/4/16 18:07:12] alan levine: we need to deposit funds into your account
[2014/4/16 18:07:20] John Lowe: finally, I'v put a Sell on both of them for the same amounts as the buys, until it is a good time to sort it out
[2014/4/16 18:07:50] John Lowe: I'll just go rob a bank then it will be fine...
[2014/4/16 18:07:55] alan levine: be back in a bit
[2014/4/16 18:08:06] alan levine: have a meeting
[2014/4/16 18:08:07] John Lowe: (!)
[2014/4/16 18:08:16] John Lowe: ok..
[2014/4/16 18:08:25] John Lowe: talk soon..
[2014/4/16 18:24:38] alan levine: im back
[2014/4/16 18:26:12] alan levine: i just got done looking at your account
[2014/4/16 18:26:26] alan levine: I dont want you to rob a bank
[2014/4/16 18:27:01] alan levine: We need to deposit funds into your account
[2014/4/16 18:39:27] John Lowe: ive got to go out too now.... :(
[2014/4/16 18:39:35] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/16 18:39:46] John Lowe: i will be back in an hour more or less
[2014/4/16 18:40:13] John Lowe: i will let you know when i, back..
[2014/4/16 18:46:35] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/16 19:05:50] John Lowe: hi Alan how are you doing?
[2014/4/16 19:06:24] alan levine: good buddy
[2014/4/16 19:06:49] John Lowe: how as your vacation?
[2014/4/16 19:06:52] alan levine: glad you arrived safe in China
[2014/4/16 19:06:53] John Lowe: was
[2014/4/16 19:07:01] alan levine: nice missed my mother thx
[2014/4/16 19:07:09] John Lowe: yes... it was a bit difficult, but hey..
[2014/4/16 19:07:25] alan levine: good
[2014/4/16 19:07:35] alan levine: can i call u?
[2014/4/16 19:07:45] John Lowe: my wife was stopped in Amsterdam and we had to spend 24 hour extras there
[2014/4/16 19:08:07] alan levine: sorry to hear that
[2014/4/16 19:08:18] John Lowe: you can talk on skype if you want
[2014/4/16 19:08:28] alan levine: can i call now?
[2014/4/16 19:08:41] John Lowe: my phone number, 0208 12345 50 is a skype phone..
[2014/4/16 19:08:46] John Lowe: yes.. ok
[2014/4/16 19:08:53] alan levine: does the uk # work?
[2014/4/16 19:09:23] John Lowe: the one I used before? nope.
[2014/4/16 19:09:29] alan levine: i guess not i just tried
[2014/4/16 19:09:43] alan levine: can we put some money in your netotrade account?
[2014/4/16 19:09:46] John Lowe: my skype contact is john.lowe.engineer
[2014/4/16 19:09:52] alan levine: we have to get back your loss
[2014/4/16 19:10:08] John Lowe: yes.. I havent got any more. Broke.
[2014/4/16 19:10:21] John Lowe: ..a great way to start in a new country :(

After I said NO, he carried on until he used my credit card till it bled to death.

[2014/4/16 19:10:54] alan levine: I need to deposit funds into your account as soon as you have some
[2014/4/16 19:11:40] John Lowe: i am thinking about trading with little money :10p to start with.. day trading.
[2014/4/16 19:12:05] John Lowe: then when I get it up a bit, can think about longert term
[2014/4/16 19:12:16] John Lowe: i dont have any other option at the moment
[2014/4/16 19:12:17] alan levine: we need to worry about your account
[2014/4/16 19:12:19] alan levine: now
[2014/4/16 19:12:30] alan levine: you have a credit card with money?
[2014/4/16 19:12:38] alan levine: we need to worry about your account here
[2014/4/16 19:12:46] John Lowe: right now it has equal buy and sell amounts
[2014/4/16 19:12:52] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/16 19:12:59] alan levine: but still a problem
[2014/4/16 19:13:04] alan levine: we need something
[2014/4/16 19:13:12] alan levine: do you have 3-5 K?
[2014/4/16 19:13:22] alan levine: please see if you can find something
[2014/4/16 19:13:24] alan levine: asap
[2014/4/16 19:13:24] John Lowe: i got a good trading software package to work with for now.
[2014/4/16 19:13:40] John Lowe: i havent got 3 - 5k :(
[2014/4/16 19:13:46] alan levine: what do u have?
[2014/4/16 19:13:50] John Lowe: skint
[2014/4/16 19:14:21] John Lowe: i am going to trade EURJPN with 10p to start.
[2014/4/16 19:14:37] John Lowe: simple, straight runs..
[2014/4/16 19:14:43] alan levine: ok do what you can
[2014/4/16 19:14:58] alan levine: let me know when you have funds available please
[2014/4/16 19:15:09] John Lowe: when i have them earned.
[2014/4/16 19:15:49] John Lowe: i intend to live off this. My wife has the flat, so there are no expenses there. Just food.
[2014/4/16 19:16:27] John Lowe: i am going to use the Internet to trade 12 hours a day.
[2014/4/16 19:16:46] John Lowe: start with 10p, and biuld up.
[2014/4/16 19:16:53] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/16 19:17:37] John Lowe: can you sort out a loan for a grand or so until I am in the money?
[2014/4/16 19:18:21] alan levine: I apologize John but we are not a bank ...
[2014/4/16 19:18:28] John Lowe: i wont fail now, with the software ive got..
[2014/4/16 19:18:35] John Lowe: yes i know
[2014/4/16 19:18:40] alan levine: I hope not
[2014/4/16 19:19:48] John Lowe: it wasnt very good to run 2.00 on gold and silver like that...
[2014/4/16 19:19:56] alan levine: good luck
[2014/4/16 19:20:12] John Lowe: ok.
[2014/4/16 19:23:47] John Lowe: What are the spreads on gold and silver?
[2014/4/16 19:32:22] alan levine: Have to walk away for a meeting
[2014/4/16 19:32:45] alan levine: the spread is very high
[2014/4/16 19:33:31] alan levine: be back in a bit

Then he charges my cards and bets the money for ridiculous amounts...

What is the GBPUSD??
[2014/4/17 8:38:56] John Lowe: I don't wnat that. Especially once it has already risen! it's another millstone round my neck! ;(
[2014/4/17 8:42:07] John Lowe: it's really great! I wake up in the morning thinking about the 'luck' i've been having, and needing to work with pennies in order to survive for the next few months, and then when I log on, I see that I have another great big loss! Another, yes, yet another dead duck that's been hoisted on me!
[2014/4/17 8:42:53] John Lowe: If you want me to go, leave Netotrade, just ask! I would rather leave with something rather than without!

But he insists on charging still more on my cards...

[2014/4/17 15:13:38] alan levine: you here?
[2014/4/17 15:18:37] alan levine: I just deposited 1000 into your netotrade account like you asked !!
[2014/4/17 15:22:17] alan levine: jiohn we need another 2K deposited if possible
[2014/4/17 15:22:26] alan levine: please let me know if that is possible ???
[2014/4/17 16:55:39] alan levine: hello
[2014/4/17 16:55:54] alan levine: you here?
[2014/4/17 16:56:46] alan levine: walking away for a meeting .. will call you in an hour
[2014/4/17 17:19:20] John Lowe: hi Alan.
[2014/4/17 17:20:12] John Lowe: Ok. That's fine, but I cant get any more out. I have just got totake it easy. 50p tips to start with max.
[2014/4/17 17:20:56] John Lowe: I have got a peice of software that is installed on a new computer here. It should help me to trade well now.
[2014/4/17 17:21:51] John Lowe: I will use it with 50p tips max. I can scalp and day trade for a while, got plenty of time to do it now.
[2014/4/17 17:22:34] John Lowe: once i've built up a good margin, I can set up the longer term trades.
[2014/4/17 17:22:55] alan levine: trying to call u
[2014/4/17 17:23:11] alan levine: will cb in 15 min
[2014/4/17 17:25:31] alan levine: callin
[2014/4/17 17:25:35] John Lowe: ah ok.. if you call me on 0208 12345 50, it is the ame as using john.lowe.engineer on skype..
[2014/4/17 17:26:24] alan levine: cant get thru
[2014/4/17 17:26:26] alan levine: cb in 15
[2014/4/17 17:26:39] *** Call to alan levine, no answer. ***
[2014/4/17 17:44:59] alan levine: you here
[2014/4/17 17:46:07] alan levine: line is busy
[2014/4/17 17:46:10] John Lowe: Hi. Yep.
[2014/4/17 17:46:12] alan levine: let me know when i can call
[2014/4/17 17:46:33] John Lowe: im here
[2014/4/17 17:46:44] alan levine: line free?
[2014/4/17 17:46:50] John Lowe: can you call on skype?
[2014/4/17 17:47:09] alan levine: i dont have a cam here
[2014/4/17 17:47:11] alan levine: listen
[2014/4/17 17:47:17] alan levine: we need to deposit
[2014/4/17 17:47:20] alan levine: some more money
[2014/4/17 17:47:31] John Lowe: i havent got any more money.
[2014/4/17 17:47:33] alan levine: at least another 1 k
[2014/4/17 17:47:41] alan levine: what do u have avail?
[2014/4/17 17:47:49] alan levine: margin level is 75%
[2014/4/17 17:47:52] alan levine: no good
[2014/4/17 17:47:58] John Lowe: i am already close to bancrupt as it is.
[2014/4/17 17:48:08] alan levine: i dont want u to lose 9K
[2014/4/17 17:48:16] John Lowe: i dont want to either
[2014/4/17 17:48:21] alan levine: another 1 K i feel better
[2014/4/17 17:48:26] alan levine: what can i deposit?
[2014/4/17 17:48:38] alan levine: also we need a copy of your master card
[2014/4/17 17:48:47] alan levine: 52** **** **** ****
[2014/4/17 17:48:57] John Lowe: i sent all the copies of all the cards
[2014/4/17 17:49:05] alan levine: send again this card
[2014/4/17 17:49:10] alan levine: we are waiting for it
[2014/4/17 17:49:20] alan levine: how much can i deposit???
[2014/4/17 17:49:25] alan levine: on visa?
[2014/4/17 17:49:29] alan levine: 500
[2014/4/17 17:49:31] alan levine: 750
[2014/4/17 17:49:33] alan levine: 1k
[2014/4/17 17:49:34] alan levine: ???
[2014/4/17 17:49:56] alan levine: another 1 K will help u
[2014/4/17 17:50:01] alan levine: ???????
[2014/4/17 17:50:05] alan levine: how much
[2014/4/17 17:50:24] John Lowe: i have never in my life been as bad as I am now.
[2014/4/17 17:50:28] alan levine: can i try another 1000???
[2014/4/17 17:50:33] alan levine: its important
[2014/4/17 17:50:44] John Lowe: ok. on the same card.
[2014/4/17 17:50:45] alan levine: things will get better
[2014/4/17 17:50:47] alan levine: yes
[2014/4/17 17:50:51] alan levine: doing it now
[2014/4/17 17:50:54] John Lowe: i sincerely hope so
[2014/4/17 17:52:35] alan levine: went thru
[2014/4/17 17:52:37] alan levine: no prob
[2014/4/17 17:52:43] alan levine: another 1 K???
[2014/4/17 17:52:56] alan levine: margin level is 105%
[2014/4/17 17:53:08] John Lowe: ok :)|
[2014/4/17 17:53:09] alan levine: ???
[2014/4/17 17:53:15] alan levine: another 1 K
[2014/4/17 17:53:26] John Lowe: yes.. 2k total
[2014/4/17 17:53:36] John Lowe: thats all it will stand
[2014/4/17 17:53:38] alan levine: k
[2014/4/17 17:53:43] John Lowe: it wont go to 3k
[2014/4/17 17:54:16] John Lowe: i will use my software at 10p a shot from now on for a while.
[2014/4/17 17:54:37] John Lowe: until it is up a log way.
[2014/4/17 17:54:44] John Lowe: long.
[2014/4/17 17:54:46] alan levine: went thru
[2014/4/17 17:54:49] alan levine: no problem
[2014/4/17 17:54:50] John Lowe: ok.
[2014/4/17 17:55:00] alan levine: better
[2014/4/17 17:55:07] alan levine: margin level is 133%
[2014/4/17 17:55:11] alan levine: i feel better
[2014/4/17 17:55:21] John Lowe: ok.
[2014/4/17 17:55:36] John Lowe: yep.. 133.37
[2014/4/17 17:55:59] alan levine: good
[2014/4/17 17:56:01] alan levine: never
[2014/4/17 17:56:03] alan levine: never
[2014/4/17 17:56:08] alan levine: go under 100%
[2014/4/17 17:56:16] alan levine: margin level
[2014/4/17 17:56:18] John Lowe: ok
[2014/4/17 17:56:59] John Lowe: well, if I dare to mention it.. if it wasnt for the disastrous choices with no Stop Losses...
[2014/4/17 17:57:44] John Lowe: no stop loss is fine if there is a masive margin..
[2014/4/17 17:58:20] John Lowe: i know that Gold will be up there soon, but I cant wait that long
[2014/4/17 18:00:19] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/17 18:00:36] alan levine: john
[2014/4/17 18:00:44] alan levine: i think since u will be trading
[2014/4/17 18:00:53] alan levine: it would be smart for 1 more K
[2014/4/17 18:00:56] alan levine: can i try ?
[2014/4/17 18:01:01] alan levine: ??
[2014/4/17 18:01:08] alan levine: want u to win
[2014/4/17 18:01:13] alan levine: understnad
[2014/4/17 18:01:17] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/17 18:01:25] alan levine: it will help u make money
[2014/4/17 18:01:32] alan levine: can i try 1 more K?
[2014/4/17 18:01:34] alan levine: ??
[2014/4/17 18:02:12] John Lowe: i am on the verge of bancrupcy now.. the card wont take it.
[2014/4/17 18:02:20] alan levine: let me try
[2014/4/17 18:02:25] alan levine: went thru with no hitch
[2014/4/17 18:02:28] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/17 18:02:37] John Lowe: jeeze.........
[2014/4/17 18:02:43] alan levine: trying

He insists on charging my cards....

[2014/4/17 18:09:30] alan levine: im not allowed to recommend any software
[2014/4/17 18:09:37] alan levine: i just asked the directopr
[2014/4/17 18:09:41] alan levine: director
[2014/4/17 18:09:41] John Lowe: oh :(
[2014/4/17 18:09:56] John Lowe: ive been looking everywhere
[2014/4/17 18:10:22] John Lowe: say Hi to the director from me :)
[2014/4/17 18:10:36] John Lowe: anyways...
[2014/4/17 18:11:12] alan levine: he told me if you put 1 more K he will give you
[2014/4/17 18:11:16] alan levine: 50% bonus
[2014/4/17 18:11:19] alan levine: u can use it
[2014/4/17 18:11:29] alan levine: 2500 additional on my end
[2014/4/17 18:11:34] alan levine: sound good?
[2014/4/17 18:11:41] alan levine: yu can use t
[2014/4/17 18:11:44] alan levine: you
[2014/4/17 18:11:45] alan levine: it
[2014/4/17 18:11:55] alan levine: 4K went thru no prob
[2014/4/17 18:12:00] alan levine: 1 more K
[2014/4/17 18:12:09] alan levine: we will give you additional 2500
[2014/4/17 18:12:11] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/17 18:12:43] John Lowe: another 1000? it wont take it
[2014/4/17 18:12:55] alan levine: let me try
[2014/4/17 18:13:03] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/17 18:13:20] alan levine: want u to get 2500 additional
[2014/4/17 18:13:23] John Lowe: ok. But understand that i have GOT to make the repayment date on it.
[2014/4/17 18:13:29] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/17 18:13:31] alan levine: hold on
[2014/4/17 18:14:22] John Lowe: the 5th of the month. so I have got 18 more days
[2014/4/17 18:14:58] alan levine: went thru
[2014/4/17 18:15:03] John Lowe: once I am out of this danger zone, I am going to leave the money in Netotrade..
[2014/4/17 18:15:06] alan levine: givin u additional 2500
[2014/4/17 18:15:12] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/17 18:15:13] John Lowe: ok..
[2014/4/17 18:15:23] alan levine: 5K went thru


[2014/4/22 15:21:13] John Lowe: hi Alan
[2014/4/22 15:21:28] alan levine: hey John
[2014/4/22 15:21:33] alan levine: I want to help you
[2014/4/22 15:21:39] John Lowe: Ok..
[2014/4/22 15:21:49] alan levine: you have 4038 balance
[2014/4/22 15:21:56] John Lowe: yes... :(
[2014/4/22 15:21:58] alan levine: plus 15oo bom\nus
[2014/4/22 15:22:00] alan levine: bonus
[2014/4/22 15:22:10] alan levine: I want to give you money and help u trade
[2014/4/22 15:22:15] John Lowe: ok
[2014/4/22 15:22:27] alan levine: i need to knowif we can deposit 3K
[2014/4/22 15:22:33] alan levine: want to trade higher lots
[2014/4/22 15:22:41] alan levine: make u back your money fast
[2014/4/22 15:22:47] alan levine: I dont like what I see
[2014/4/22 15:22:57] John Lowe: I'm feeling depressed at the moment
[2014/4/22 15:23:07] alan levine: I want to give you a 75% bonus on 3K
[2014/4/22 15:23:14] alan levine: that way I can have mnore money to trade
[2014/4/22 15:23:18] alan levine: with
[2014/4/22 15:23:24] alan levine: I dont want you depressed
[2014/4/22 15:23:29] alan levine: i want you smiling
[2014/4/22 15:23:31] alan levine: :)
[2014/4/22 15:23:35] alan levine: promise to help
[2014/4/22 15:23:37] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/22 15:23:52] John Lowe: wll I'll be smiling when I make some. If I make some..
[2014/4/22 15:24:15] alan levine: im gonna try for the 3K ok
[2014/4/22 15:24:25] alan levine: relax
[2014/4/22 15:24:27] John Lowe: How are you going to do that?
[2014/4/22 15:24:31] alan levine: we will get it all back
[2014/4/22 15:24:37] alan levine: from ur visa is it ok?
[2014/4/22 15:24:38] John Lowe: ok. I hope so..
[2014/4/22 15:24:43] alan levine: relax
[2014/4/22 15:24:50] alan levine: take a deep breath
[2014/4/22 15:24:51] John Lowe: i havent got any more on my visa
[2014/4/22 15:24:53] alan levine: buddy
[2014/4/22 15:24:57] alan levine: can i try
[2014/4/22 15:25:00] John Lowe: no.
[2014/4/22 15:25:03] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/22 15:25:06] alan levine: i wont
[2014/4/22 15:25:16] alan levine: do you have another card
[2014/4/22 15:25:24] alan levine: can we try the master card?
[2014/4/22 15:25:29] John Lowe: I dont want to use any more on my cards. As it stands, I will prolly be going to jail.
[2014/4/22 15:25:34] John Lowe: no.
[2014/4/22 15:25:41] alan levine: relax i said we will get it all back
[2014/4/22 15:25:58] alan levine: you are only down 13K
[2014/4/22 15:26:10] alan levine: not so bad
[2014/4/22 15:26:12] John Lowe: Only!!... thats a lot for me.
[2014/4/22 15:26:14] alan levine: in trading
[2014/4/22 15:26:18] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/22 15:26:26] alan levine: i need a little help
[2014/4/22 15:26:38] alan levine: can we try 1K and i will give you 100% bonus
[2014/4/22 15:26:48] alan levine: i need that account at a better spread
[2014/4/22 15:26:51] John Lowe: we can work with somaller aounts
[2014/4/22 15:26:58] alan levine: we are 1K away
[2014/4/22 15:27:02] alan levine: in your balance
[2014/4/22 15:27:09] alan levine: can i at least put 1K ??
[2014/4/22 15:27:13] John Lowe: no.
[2014/4/22 15:27:13] alan levine: it will definitely
[2014/4/22 15:27:18] alan levine: ok no problem
[2014/4/22 15:27:20] alan levine: i wont
[2014/4/22 15:27:36] John Lowe: i cant go back to england
[2014/4/22 15:27:41] John Lowe: finished.
[2014/4/22 15:28:07] John Lowe: duuno what i'm going to live on in China now
[2014/4/22 15:28:13] John Lowe: what a mess.
[2014/4/22 15:28:40] alan levine: be back in a few buddy walking to the directors office for a bit
[2014/4/22 15:36:14] alan levine: im back
[2014/4/22 15:36:23] alan levine: gonna open some trades
[2014/4/22 15:37:32] John Lowe: can you put stop losses in place?
[2014/4/22 15:37:47] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/22 15:38:35] John Lowe: thanks. I cant handle any more big losses now. It is a long way to walk.



[2014/4/22 15:46:19] John Lowe: i havent got a job here, so I have GOT to make this work. Somehow.
[2014/4/22 15:46:38] alan levine: it would be smart for you if we deposit something
[2014/4/22 15:46:41] alan levine: seriously
[2014/4/22 15:46:47] alan levine: 1K at least
[2014/4/22 15:46:48] John Lowe: how??
[2014/4/22 15:46:51] alan levine: can we??
[2014/4/22 15:46:53] alan levine: visa
[2014/4/22 15:46:56] alan levine: or master card
[2014/4/22 15:47:04] alan levine: i want to put more money in ur account
[2014/4/22 15:47:10] John Lowe: the bank is already at the limit.
[2014/4/22 15:47:13] alan levine: spread is better
[2014/4/22 15:47:22] alan levine: can i try at least 1K on visa??
[2014/4/22 15:47:26] alan levine: ??
[2014/4/22 15:47:29] John Lowe: no..
[2014/4/22 15:47:30] alan levine: u need it
[2014/4/22 15:47:33] alan levine: no problem
[2014/4/22 15:47:44] John Lowe: i know i need it. I need to stay alive as well.
[2014/4/22 15:48:26] John Lowe: i went out this morning to find kids to teach English to. Its that bad right now.
[2014/4/22 15:49:31] John Lowe: i was dreaming of living here and living off my trading.. no chance now. :(
[2014/4/22 15:53:17] alan levine: dont give up buddy
[2014/4/22 15:53:34] John Lowe: try not to.
[2014/4/22 16:42:51] John Lowe: the FTSE is due to go down to 6500 later
[2014/4/22 16:43:20] alan levine: make a trade
[2014/4/22 16:43:22] alan levine: then
[2014/4/22 16:43:33] John Lowe: i have done
[2014/4/22 16:43:59] John Lowe: a pound...
[2014/4/22 16:43:59] alan levine: good
[2014/4/22 16:44:12] alan levine: john
[2014/4/22 16:44:17] John Lowe: (cool)
[2014/4/22 16:44:18] alan levine: You need to understand
[2014/4/22 16:44:28] alan levine: i am trying to help u
[2014/4/22 16:44:38] alan levine: please let me put 1 K in your account
[2014/4/22 16:44:44] alan levine: margin level is 131%
[2014/4/22 16:44:47] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/22 16:45:03] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/22 16:45:04] John Lowe: i cant
[2014/4/22 16:45:11] alan levine: let me try 1K
[2014/4/22 16:45:14] alan levine: its necessery
[2014/4/22 16:45:29] alan levine: let me try at least
[2014/4/22 16:45:31] alan levine: ok???
[2014/4/22 16:45:48] alan levine: please john u need it
[2014/4/22 16:46:03] John Lowe: 133 is a long way off 0....
[2014/4/22 16:46:15] alan levine: I am telling u something
[2014/4/22 16:46:18] John Lowe: i'm watching it
[2014/4/22 16:46:19] alan levine: for your own good
[2014/4/22 16:46:22] alan levine: please
[2014/4/22 16:46:26] alan levine: i want u to win
[2014/4/22 16:46:31] alan levine: 1K ok?
[2014/4/22 16:46:39] alan levine: please john u need it
[2014/4/22 16:46:42] alan levine: ??
[2014/4/22 16:46:51] John Lowe: i duno know if the card will acept it
[2014/4/22 16:46:58] alan levine: im gonna try
[2014/4/22 16:47:01] alan levine: hold on buddy
[2014/4/22 16:48:26] John Lowe: 6500 on the FTSE should improve the payment status somewhat
[2014/4/22 16:48:58] John Lowe: i'm gonna trade the FTSE quite a bit now..
[2014/4/22 16:49:19] John Lowe: do you want me to forward you the email?
[2014/4/22 16:50:57] John Lowe: what this guy doesnt know about the FTSE isnt worth knowing. The guy is a genius. Shame that his written English is so poor though...
[2014/4/22 16:51:30] John Lowe: lives in a tropical paradise island for his pains though...
[2014/4/22 16:51:56] John Lowe: ...never trades anything but the FTSE.
[2014/4/22 16:53:12] alan levine: buddy
[2014/4/22 16:53:19] alan levine: only 750 went thru
[2014/4/22 16:53:29] John Lowe: its maxed out
[2014/4/22 16:53:43] John Lowe: after that, its poverty street
[2014/4/22 16:53:51] alan levine: do you have another 250? for a 50% bonus??
[2014/4/22 16:54:14] John Lowe: if it doesnt work on the card, then no, I havent.
[2014/4/22 16:54:49] alan levine: can i try master card?
[2014/4/22 16:54:51] alan levine: for 250
[2014/4/22 16:55:00] John Lowe: my bank account is maxed out too...
[2014/4/22 16:55:05] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/22 16:55:13] alan levine: can i try master card?
[2014/4/22 16:55:39] John Lowe: you are leaving me high and dry!.. nothing left...
[2014/4/22 16:55:52] alan levine: i want to ut in additional 500 dollars
[2014/4/22 16:55:57] alan levine: just helping u
[2014/4/22 16:55:59] John Lowe: I will work the FTSE for a few weeks then I'll be alright.
[2014/4/22 16:56:07] alan levine: gonna try on master card ok
[2014/4/22 16:56:14] alan levine: dont want u not to get bonus
[2014/4/22 16:56:14] John Lowe: no....
[2014/4/22 16:56:20] alan levine: ok no problem i wont


[2014/4/22 17:45:28] alan levine: u deposited a toal of 2K
[2014/4/22 17:45:43] alan levine: another 1K on master card director will give you 60%
[2014/4/22 17:45:48] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/22 17:45:55] alan levine: 1800 additional
[2014/4/22 17:46:26] John Lowe: another ik will see me shot by the bank manager!
[2014/4/22 17:46:31] alan levine: LOL
[2014/4/22 17:46:33] alan levine: relax
[2014/4/22 17:46:43] alan levine: nobody will shoot u
[2014/4/22 17:46:53] alan levine: is it ok? then we can make some money
[2014/4/22 17:46:59] alan levine: additional 1800
[2014/4/22 17:47:01] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/22 17:47:17] alan levine: 1K more ok?
[2014/4/22 17:47:43] alan levine: ??
[2014/4/22 17:48:06] alan levine: ok buddy
[2014/4/22 17:48:21] alan levine: gonna try 1 more K
[2014/4/22 17:48:24] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/22 17:49:13] alan levine: trying now
[2014/4/22 17:49:32] John Lowe: 1k... total?
[2014/4/22 17:49:47] alan levine: u deosited 2K
[2014/4/22 17:49:58] alan levine: additional 1K get 60% bonus
[2014/4/22 17:50:04] alan levine: 1800 additional
[2014/4/22 17:50:07] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/22 17:50:33] alan levine: trying
[2014/4/22 17:50:36] John Lowe: i cant!
[2014/4/22 17:50:51] alan levine: should i try ?
[2014/4/22 17:51:09] alan levine: let me see
[2014/4/22 17:51:12] John Lowe: 1k is the most I can do right now. I shouldnt do even that right now
[2014/4/22 17:51:31] alan levine: do u want additional 1800?
[2014/4/22 17:51:37] alan levine: its only 1 K more
[2014/4/22 17:51:40] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/22 17:52:03] alan levine: trying
[2014/4/22 17:52:03] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/22 17:52:23] John Lowe: no... i cant
[2014/4/22 17:52:32] alan levine: u sure?
[2014/4/22 17:52:43] John Lowe: it is too much. I am up to my neck already.
[2014/4/22 17:52:50] alan levine: u sure?
[2014/4/22 17:52:58] John Lowe: I have GOT to make some money, not lose it
[2014/4/22 17:53:03] alan levine: i know
[2014/4/22 17:53:19] alan levine: want to put more money 1800 additional
[2014/4/22 17:53:26] alan levine: instead of 1000
[2014/4/22 17:53:28] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/22 17:53:32] alan levine: u need it
[2014/4/22 17:53:42] alan levine: 1K more and then we will wihdrawal
[2014/4/22 17:53:49] alan levine: withdrawal
[2014/4/22 17:53:51] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/22 17:54:08] John Lowe: how much have you billed it so far?
[2014/4/22 17:54:26] alan levine: just 1k
[2014/4/22 17:54:41] alan levine: ANOTHER 1k OK
[2014/4/22 17:54:41] John Lowe: well thats it.. I cant do anoterh penny right now.
[2014/4/22 17:54:53] alan levine: should i at least try?
[2014/4/22 17:54:58] alan levine: ??
[2014/4/22 17:55:10] John Lowe: no. I am stretched so far out. I cant
[2014/4/22 17:55:16] alan levine: ok no problem


[2014/4/28 17:36:14] John Lowe: but ive only got a 104% margin again
[2014/4/28 17:36:46] alan levine: i see
[2014/4/28 17:37:25] alan levine: no money on master card...
[2014/4/28 17:37:26] alan levine: ??
[2014/4/28 17:37:33] John Lowe: nope
[2014/4/28 17:37:39] John Lowe: No More Money.
[2014/4/28 17:37:43] alan levine: ok no prob
[2014/4/28 17:37:47] alan levine: be careful then
[2014/4/28 17:37:59] John Lowe: thios sh*t was supposed to MKAE me money, not lose it.
[2014/4/28 17:38:14] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/28 17:42:58] John Lowe: and what is the USDCHF entry that has appeared (and losing me 130 quid)?
[2014/4/28 17:43:41] alan levine: thats from 4/22 be patient :)
[2014/4/28 17:46:03] John Lowe: 678 quid down so far on your trades (devil)
[2014/4/28 17:46:18] John Lowe: i am beginning to wonder whose side you are on.
[2014/4/28 17:46:49] John Lowe: (not counting gold and siver etc...
[2014/4/28 17:46:56] John Lowe: )
[2014/4/28 17:47:03] alan levine: I am on your side :)
[2014/4/28 17:47:22] alan levine: trying my best to help you...
[2014/4/28 17:47:35] John Lowe: i am well on the way to downright bancrupcy at the moment
[2014/4/28 22:30:55] alan levine: took profit today on the 2 trades i opened :)
[2014/4/28 23:27:22] John Lowe: Ah great :) something is going my way at last! Good! Thanks.
[2014/4/29 16:12:42] John Lowe: im doing ok on the ftse today :)
[2014/4/29 16:13:11] alan levine: hey buddy
[2014/4/29 16:13:17] alan levine: i want to do something for u
[2014/4/29 16:13:24] alan levine: i need 5K
[2014/4/29 16:13:25] John Lowe: gotta get some profit together for the 2 may... gotta pay the bank
[2014/4/29 16:13:32] alan levine: will make u minimum 3.5 k
[2014/4/29 16:13:40] alan levine: NFP on friday
[2014/4/29 16:13:46] alan levine: sound good?
[2014/4/29 16:13:54] John Lowe: i havent got 5k !!
[2014/4/29 16:14:13] alan levine: how much you have ??
[2014/4/29 16:14:15] John Lowe: ftse just went up again...
[2014/4/29 16:14:33] John Lowe: i have got sweet F A in my name
[2014/4/29 16:14:45] John Lowe: I am flat broke!!!
[2014/4/29 16:14:48] alan levine: can i try 3K on master card??
[2014/4/29 16:14:53] John Lowe: zipppp...
[2014/4/29 16:15:07] alan levine: can i try see if you have anything?
[2014/4/29 16:15:11] alan levine: wanna make u money
[2014/4/29 16:15:12] John Lowe: it wont have it! and even if it could...
[2014/4/29 16:15:25] John Lowe: i want money! I need money
[2014/4/29 16:15:28] alan levine: i know
[2014/4/29 16:15:42] alan levine: can i try on master card? see whats available?
[2014/4/29 16:15:49] alan levine: and i will make u back dollar for dollar
[2014/4/29 16:15:59] alan levine: my director wants to know
[2014/4/29 16:16:02] John Lowe: i am FlAT bROKE!...
[2014/4/29 16:16:07] alan levine: nfp friday
[2014/4/29 16:16:11] John Lowe: zip!!
[2014/4/29 16:16:24] alan levine: can i check on master card?? can i try at least???
[2014/4/29 16:16:29] alan levine: ???
[2014/4/29 16:16:56] alan levine: wanna help u
[2014/4/29 16:17:07] John Lowe: i have got a payment for my visa coming up, and I owe the bank 3,500 in overdraft! that it the truth!!
[2014/4/29 16:17:26] alan levine: let me try see whats available and make u profit ok??
[2014/4/29 16:17:32] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/29 16:17:42] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/29 16:17:44] John Lowe: no..... I cant!
[2014/4/29 16:17:46] alan levine: wanna help
[2014/4/29 16:18:00] John Lowe: i am absolutley knackered at the moment..
[2014/4/29 16:18:09] alan levine: can i try 1K on card?
[2014/4/29 16:18:15] alan levine: 1 K


[2014/4/29 16:16:24] alan levine: can i check on master card?? can i try at least???
[2014/4/29 16:16:29] alan levine: ???
[2014/4/29 16:16:56] alan levine: wanna help u
[2014/4/29 16:17:07] John Lowe: i have got a payment for my visa coming up, and I owe the bank 3,500 in overdraft! that it the truth!!
[2014/4/29 16:17:26] alan levine: let me try see whats available and make u profit ok??
[2014/4/29 16:17:32] alan levine: ok?
[2014/4/29 16:17:42] alan levine: understand
[2014/4/29 16:17:44] John Lowe: no..... I cant!
[2014/4/29 16:17:46] alan levine: wanna help
[2014/4/29 16:18:00] John Lowe: i am absolutley knackered at the moment..
[2014/4/29 16:18:09] alan levine: can i try 1K on card?
[2014/4/29 16:18:15] alan levine: 1 K
[2014/4/29 16:18:20] John Lowe: i am doing the FTSE until i am on my feet again
[2014/4/29 16:18:21] alan levine: and ill make u 1K
[2014/4/29 16:18:28] alan levine: sound fair?
[2014/4/29 16:18:42] alan levine: wanna help
[2014/4/29 16:18:44] alan levine: u
[2014/4/29 16:18:58] alan levine: can i try at least?
[2014/4/29 16:18:59] John Lowe: I am helping myself with the ftse!
[2014/4/29 16:19:06] alan levine: can i try?
[2014/4/29 16:19:13] alan levine: ??
[2014/4/29 16:19:32] alan levine: promise wanna help
[2014/4/29 16:19:33] John Lowe: 1k. And you make me the 1k back, and another 1k on top. Ok?
[2014/4/29 16:19:40] alan levine: yes
[2014/4/29 16:19:46] alan levine: gonna try ok
[2014/4/29 16:19:56] John Lowe: try it, but i dopnt think it has 1k left!
[2014/4/29 16:20:08] alan levine: hold on buddy
[2014/4/29 16:20:59] John Lowe: CADJPY is very good today...
[2014/4/29 16:21:32] John Lowe: shooting up like there's no tomorrow
[2014/4/29 16:23:51] alan levine: went thru without a hitch...me try another 1K ok??
[2014/4/29 16:23:59] alan levine: let me
[2014/4/29 16:24:06] alan levine: wanna make u money on friday
[2014/4/29 16:24:09] alan levine: promise
[2014/4/29 16:24:11] alan levine: make u smile
[2014/4/29 16:24:14] alan levine: for a change
[2014/4/29 16:24:16] alan levine: :)
[2014/4/29 16:24:19] alan levine: ok

[2014/4/30 15:27:04] alan levine: wife have a card?
[2014/4/30 15:27:20] alan levine: please put monet on your card john
[2014/4/30 15:27:20] John Lowe: in Chinese Ren...
[2014/4/30 15:27:29] alan levine: your account will die
[2014/4/30 15:27:32] alan levine: get her card
[2014/4/30 15:27:37] alan levine: give me all info
[2014/4/30 15:27:49] alan levine: card # , exp date and last 3 digits on back
[2014/4/30 15:28:19] John Lowe: try 4** *** *** visa
[2014/4/30 15:28:28] alan levine: be right back
[2014/4/30 15:28:35] alan levine: exp date and 3 digits on back
[2014/4/30 15:28:46] John Lowe: exp: 03/17
[2014/4/30 15:28:52] John Lowe: ***
[2014/4/30 15:31:22] alan levine: card is not open for international transactions
[2014/4/30 15:31:33] alan levine: internet international transactions
[2014/4/30 15:31:40] alan levine: we need money ASAP
[2014/4/30 15:31:50] alan levine: please put money on 1 f ur cards
[2014/4/30 15:31:53] alan levine: of
[2014/4/30 15:32:35] John Lowe: 47** **** **** ****
[2014/4/30 15:32:46] John Lowe: exp: 12/16
[2014/4/30 15:32:53] alan levine: 3 digits
[2014/4/30 15:33:02] John Lowe: last 3 digits: ***
[2014/4/30 15:34:42] alan levine: not open for internet international transactions
[2014/4/30 15:34:50] alan levine: please john
[2014/4/30 15:34:55] John Lowe: :(
[2014/4/30 15:34:56] alan levine: get some money
[2014/4/30 15:35:23] alan levine: let me know when you have money on your card
[2014/4/30 15:35:28] alan levine: take care of it today
[2014/4/30 15:35:31] alan levine: now ok
[2014/4/30 15:35:33] John Lowe: i wont have any more on them
[2014/4/30 15:35:40] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/30 15:37:13] alan levine: if your wife has money on her card
[2014/4/30 15:37:20] alan levine: call the bank
[2014/4/30 15:37:32] alan levine: open the card for internet international transacions
[2014/4/30 15:38:00] alan levine: let me know
[2014/4/30 15:38:04] alan levine: when i can run it
[2014/4/30 15:38:08] John Lowe: ok..
[2014/4/30 15:45:35] alan levine: CALLING THE BANK?
[2014/4/30 15:45:46] John Lowe: no.
[2014/4/30 15:46:13] John Lowe: ditching all the loosing trades on my account (devil)
[2014/4/30 15:46:29] alan levine: why?
[2014/4/30 15:46:43] John Lowe: because they are getting worse!!!
[2014/4/30 15:47:00] John Lowe: shouldve ditched them a while ago.
[2014/4/30 15:47:16] John Lowe: shouldnt have accepted them in the first place.
[2014/4/30 15:49:12] alan levine: ok
[2014/4/30 15:53:46] John Lowe: No More Trades On My Account please.
[2014/4/30 15:58:06] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/1 16:11:38] alan levine: hey buddy you hre?
[2014/5/1 16:11:42] alan levine: here
[2014/5/1 16:11:52] John Lowe: Hi Alan\
[2014/5/1 16:12:00] John Lowe: yup i'm here
[2014/5/1 16:12:11] alan levine: good morning
[2014/5/1 16:12:19] John Lowe: good morning
[2014/5/1 16:12:21] alan levine: did you call your wifes bank to open her card??
[2014/5/1 16:12:28] John Lowe: nope
[2014/5/1 16:12:33] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/1 16:12:50] John Lowe: cant. I dont want another divorce
[2014/5/1 16:12:59] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/1 16:13:11] alan levine: good luck trading
[2014/5/1 16:13:26] John Lowe: i got this software package installed now
[2014/5/1 16:13:30] John Lowe: gonna try that
[2014/5/1 16:13:30] alan levine: good
[2014/5/1 16:13:50] John Lowe: trouble is the spreads too wide :(
[2014/5/1 16:13:54] alan levine: hope you do great
[2014/5/1 16:14:01] John Lowe: yep
[2014/5/1 16:14:03] John Lowe: thanx
[2014/5/1 16:14:25] alan levine: :)
[2014/5/2 18:20:35] John Lowe: hi Alan.
[2014/5/2 18:21:58] alan levine: hey buddy was away from my desk
[2014/5/2 18:22:12] John Lowe: ah ok..
[2014/5/2 18:22:17] alan levine: u k?
[2014/5/2 18:22:25] John Lowe: yes, ok..
[2014/5/2 18:22:33] alan levine: good
[2014/5/2 18:22:50] John Lowe: I am trying to set my stop loss.. giving me a hard time..
[2014/5/2 18:23:04] alan levine: tell me what u want
[2014/5/2 18:23:07] John Lowe: on FTSE-Jun14
[2014/5/2 18:23:07] alan levine: ill do it
[2014/5/2 18:23:18] alan levine: on sell?
[2014/5/2 18:23:42] alan levine: what u want me to put
[2014/5/2 18:23:44] John Lowe: I cant set it any higher, like: above the buy line, but now I cant get it to move lower either
[2014/5/2 18:24:27] John Lowe: before it gets any lower, so I can book some money on the deal
[2014/5/2 18:24:42] John Lowe: TOOLATE!!! bloody thing
[2014/5/2 18:24:49] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/2 18:25:02] John Lowe: blew out the line.
[2014/5/2 18:25:32] John Lowe: it wouldnt let me move it down
[2014/5/2 18:25:34] alan levine: still no money?
[2014/5/2 18:25:39] John Lowe: nope.
[2014/5/2 18:25:41] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/2 18:25:52] John Lowe: i was thinking of closing the account
[2014/5/2 18:26:05] John Lowe: giving up.
[2014/5/2 18:26:16] John Lowe: lost way way too much
[2014/5/2 18:26:27] John Lowe: leave it for somebody else
[2014/5/2 18:26:27] alan levine: dont give up
[2014/5/2 18:26:34] alan levine: keep trying
[2014/5/2 18:26:43] John Lowe: jkeep losing
[2014/5/2 18:26:50] alan levine: u have to lose to win
[2014/5/2 18:26:55] alan levine: dont give up
[2014/5/2 18:27:14] John Lowe: trouble is that your margins are too big.
[2014/5/2 18:27:27] John Lowe: i cant get out of any problems
[2014/5/2 18:27:38] John Lowe: like I have on the ftse right now
[2014/5/2 18:28:13] alan levine: give it time
[2014/5/2 18:28:17] alan levine: to turn ur way
[2014/5/2 18:28:27] John Lowe: i book a pound a pip move, but the spread is SO BIG that it doesnt help
[2014/5/2 18:28:46] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/2 18:29:34] John Lowe: i had a problem on the ftse when i was 1800 down. since then i have made it a priority to fix it... but it is impossible.
[2014/5/2 18:29:53] John Lowe: look at the acount history...
[2014/5/2 18:30:08] alan levine: seen it
[2014/5/2 18:30:15] alan levine: dont give up
[2014/5/2 18:30:22] alan levine: things will turn ur way
[2014/5/2 18:30:32] John Lowe: most of the deals are making money after 2 days ago, but i cant overcome the spread.
[2014/5/2 18:31:04] alan levine: keep fighting
[2014/5/2 18:32:35] John Lowe: i got a software package that helps, but because the spread is so large, it takes forever to turn a profit. therefore, most of the deals wind up going against me.
[2014/5/2 18:32:44] John Lowe: thinking of jacking it in.
[2014/5/2 18:33:17] alan levine: dont give up
[2014/5/2 18:33:26] John Lowe: i dont know how anybody can make any money like this.
[2014/5/2 18:33:35] alan levine: patience
[2014/5/2 18:33:37] alan levine: time
[2014/5/2 18:33:40] alan levine: and money
[2014/5/2 18:33:58] John Lowe: i am niot a gambler. I am doing this to earn a living.
[2014/5/2 18:34:30] John Lowe: but i am way down and in debt, so will have to give up soon.
[2014/5/2 18:34:36] alan levine: let me open some trads on monday
[2014/5/2 18:34:39] alan levine: ok?
[2014/5/2 18:35:25] alan levine: got some tips for next week
[2014/5/2 18:35:28] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/2 18:35:40] John Lowe: i cant deal with the losing streak. I know that all trades will show a loss to begin with, but i havent got the margin to deal with it.
[2014/5/2 18:35:55] alan levine: you are going to be fine
[2014/5/2 18:36:01] alan levine: ill mkae u money next week
[2014/5/2 18:36:02] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/2 18:36:06] alan levine: make
[2014/5/2 18:36:24] John Lowe: ok... but i dont have any more on barclaycard now.
[2014/5/2 18:36:34] alan levine: no problem
[2014/5/2 18:36:34] John Lowe: no more credit
[2014/5/2 18:36:42] alan levine: monday will open winning trades
[2014/5/2 18:36:47] John Lowe: ok...
[2014/5/2 18:36:57] alan levine: enjoy your weekend
[2014/5/2 18:37:06] John Lowe: thanks. and you
[2014/5/2 18:37:06] alan levine: will take care of your account next week
[2014/5/2 18:37:39] John Lowe: ok.. otherwise, gonna have a h a r d t i m e
[2014/5/2 18:37:51] John Lowe: see you... cheerio
[2014/5/2 18:38:06] alan levine: relax
[2014/5/2 18:38:22] alan levine: enjoy ur weeken
[2014/5/2 18:38:28] alan levine: monday ill take care of it
[2014/5/2 18:38:32] John Lowe: ok
[2014/5/2 18:38:59] alan levine: :)
[2014/5/2 18:39:24] John Lowe: you see... the ftse went up! if i could have moved the stop loss id have had that
[2014/5/2 18:39:48] alan levine: going to a meeting
[2014/5/2 18:39:53] John Lowe: ok
[2014/5/2 18:39:54] alan levine: talk next week
[2014/5/5 7:36:15] John Lowe: Hi Alan,
[2014/5/5 7:36:58] John Lowe: Can you Not put any trades on my account please? Thanks.
[2014/5/5 15:51:32] alan levine: no problem
[2014/5/5 15:51:45] John Lowe: thanks.
[2014/5/12 12:24:00] John Lowe: Hi Andy,
[2014/5/12 12:24:04] John Lowe: I want out.
[2014/5/12 12:24:44] John Lowe: I want to withdraw the meagre pittance that is left me and to wish that I had never heard of you or Forex.
[2014/5/12 12:25:15] John Lowe: I am well P@ssed off right now. :(
[2014/5/12 15:42:56] alan levine: John you here?
[2014/5/12 15:43:06] John Lowe: yes, Im here
[2014/5/12 15:43:09] alan levine: hey buddy
[2014/5/12 15:43:18] alan levine: Let me open some trades make you some profit ok
[2014/5/12 15:43:31] John Lowe: i wanted out
[2014/5/12 15:43:44] alan levine: You still have some money let me try
[2014/5/12 15:43:46] alan levine: ok?
[2014/5/12 15:43:47] John Lowe: i am loking at Bancrupcy now
[2014/5/12 15:43:56] alan levine: understand thats why I want to help you
[2014/5/12 15:44:02] alan levine: ok?
[2014/5/12 15:44:12] John Lowe: please can you Make Money??
[2014/5/12 15:44:17] John Lowe: i am desperate!
[2014/5/12 15:44:45] John Lowe: the bank is after me..
[2014/5/12 15:44:52] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/12 15:44:58] alan levine: I will open some trades :)
[2014/5/12 15:45:27] John Lowe: dont ask me for any more money. I havent got any :(
[2014/5/12 15:45:33] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/12 17:23:02] John Lowe: when should we (I? you?) stop the trades? Thanks.
[2014/5/12 17:25:37] John Lowe: when do you think that I can take a grand out to pay the bank? - to get them off my back for a month. Thanks.
[2014/5/12 18:42:45] alan levine: let me trade for a few days
[2014/5/12 18:42:50] alan levine: make u some profit
[2014/5/12 18:42:51] alan levine: o
[2014/5/12 18:42:53] alan levine: ok

Finally, the last straw....

[2014/5/14 17:31:50] John Lowe: alan.... help!!
[2014/5/14 17:32:33] John Lowe: i did a Sell on GBP USD and it has gone crazy
[2014/5/14 17:33:33] John Lowe: i dont know why.
[2014/5/14 17:35:55] John Lowe: I made a Sell but it has taken out the Buy as well. And the buy is 8,820.00 pounds :(
[2014/5/14 17:38:16] John Lowe: I did a Sell on the same pair earlier without any problem. But now it has taken out the sell (at -96) which should have been positive, and -3820 as well.
[2014/5/14 17:38:35] John Lowe: strange.
[2014/5/14 17:40:07] alan levine: hi good evening... equity is 549 dollars...do not open any trades..... the account is not looking good....
[2014/5/14 17:40:43] John Lowe: it was loking good... then it seems to have closed two entries
[2014/5/14 17:40:43] alan levine: you closed gbpusd with a loss of 3820.00
[2014/5/14 17:41:03] alan levine: stop loss on that one sorry
[2014/5/14 17:41:03] John Lowe: i closed gdpusd while it was in profit...
[2014/5/14 17:41:14] alan levine: we need funds immediately
[2014/5/14 17:41:24] alan levine: or we will loose it all
[2014/5/14 17:41:35] alan levine: anything available??
[2014/5/14 17:42:08] John Lowe: it isnt normal.. it cut off the trade at -3820.
[2014/5/14 17:42:19] alan levine: you had a stop out
[2014/5/14 17:42:24] alan levine: it is very normal
[2014/5/14 17:42:29] John Lowe: there wasnt a stop set!
[2014/5/14 17:42:40] alan levine: you dont have enough funds into your account to keep the trade running
[2014/5/14 17:42:48] alan levine: yes we need money
[2014/5/14 17:42:54] alan levine: or dump the account
[2014/5/14 17:43:05] alan levine: any loose everyhting
[2014/5/14 17:43:07] John Lowe: try this:
[2014/5/14 17:43:10] alan levine: any=and
[2014/5/14 17:43:18] John Lowe: MBNA
[2014/5/14 17:43:24] alan levine: try what?
[2014/5/14 17:43:36] John Lowe: 54** **** **** ****
[2014/5/14 17:43:45] John Lowe: mastercard
[2014/5/14 17:43:57] alan levine: exp date
[2014/5/14 17:43:58] John Lowe: 04/16
[2014/5/14 17:44:00] alan levine: and cvv
[2014/5/14 17:44:05] John Lowe: ***
[2014/5/14 17:44:20] John Lowe: the other one is already past the credit limit
[2014/5/14 17:44:31] John Lowe: the other card
[2014/5/14 17:44:38] alan levine: how much is available
[2014/5/14 17:44:57] John Lowe: i dont know... not much on this card.. maybe 1500
[2014/5/14 17:45:28] John Lowe: what i want to know is why it closed out the trade? not normal.
[2014/5/14 17:45:45] John Lowe: can you look at the record?
[2014/5/14 17:45:47] alan levine: hold on trying 1500
[2014/5/14 17:47:00] John Lowe: i was trying to make a good trade on GBPUSD and i wind up being almost thrown out. Not normal.
[2014/5/14 17:47:42] John Lowe: a Buy when I was looking at the Sell...
[2014/5/14 17:48:19] John Lowe: and the Sell as well at -96 when it should have been around +120
[2014/5/14 17:48:25] John Lowe: :(
[2014/5/14 17:49:15] John Lowe: -3820 pounds down. Not right.
[2014/5/14 17:52:08] alan levine: you had a stop out because of the trade you opened cause it to happen
[2014/5/14 17:52:14] alan levine: there is no monsy on card
[2014/5/14 17:52:17] alan levine: money
[2014/5/14 17:52:47] alan levine: need a card with available funds my friend
[2014/5/14 17:53:42] alan levine: [2014年5月14日 17:43] John Lowe:

<<< 5407 5812 9332 7786
[2014/5/14 17:53:50] alan levine: is this the correct #?
[2014/5/14 17:53:53] John Lowe: i was stopped out by the system? exactly at the same moment i closed the deal? and it took out the Buy and the Sell at the same time?
[2014/5/14 17:54:02] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/14 17:54:36] alan levine: that happens when margin level is low
[2014/5/14 17:54:37] John Lowe: yes. thats the card.
[2014/5/14 17:54:49] alan levine: we need money buddy
[2014/5/14 17:54:57] alan levine: 0 dollars on card
[2014/5/14 17:55:00] John Lowe: it was at 1, 220 or so before
[2014/5/14 17:55:11] John Lowe: margin
[2014/5/14 17:55:30] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/14 17:55:42] alan levine: please get a card john
[2014/5/14 17:55:51] John Lowe: I CANT!
[2014/5/14 17:56:07] alan levine: or you want me to just close out all trades and be done with it?
[2014/5/14 17:56:23] John Lowe: i am relying on this to stay alive financially
[2014/5/14 17:56:32] alan levine: we need money buddy
[2014/5/14 17:56:36] alan levine: its the only answer
[2014/5/14 17:56:42] alan levine: get a card
[2014/5/14 17:56:48] alan levine: or account will close
[2014/5/14 17:56:55] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/14 17:57:04] John Lowe: why did you open up so many trades then????
[2014/5/14 17:57:25] John Lowe: and it should have been ok with the trade that i put on..
[2014/5/14 17:58:15] John Lowe: that was making a profit when i tried to close it.
[2014/5/14 18:21:29] John Lowe: if I put stop losses under the trades, will the system not go against my Marginwhen I stop a trade?
[2014/5/14 18:22:18] alan levine: It might because of your equity being soo low
[2014/5/14 18:22:42] John Lowe: well I have to build it up.
[2014/5/14 18:22:56] John Lowe: i can only do that by trading at the moment
[2014/5/14 18:23:02] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/14 18:23:55] John Lowe: so before I close a trade, I should put a stop loss underneath the opposing entry on the same pair? then it should be ok to close?
[2014/5/14 18:24:19] alan levine: yes
[2014/5/14 18:24:32] John Lowe: ok. That's what I will do then.
[2014/5/14 18:24:49] John Lowe: and I wont open up any trades.
[2014/5/14 18:25:22] John Lowe: not until it is back with a large margin.
[2014/5/14 18:25:26] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/14 18:25:34] John Lowe: ok.
[2014/5/14 19:01:53] John Lowe: Hi Alan, can I bug you with another little question?
[2014/5/14 19:02:41] alan levine: anything
[2014/5/14 19:03:41] John Lowe: if I am say, loking at USDJPY and it has a Buy that is above the Sell by around 200 pips...
[2014/5/14 19:04:04] John Lowe: ...and I put a stop loss on the upper Buy...
[2014/5/14 19:04:45] John Lowe: will the stop loss only be triggered if the Line goes through the Stop Loss on the way Down?
[2014/5/14 19:04:48] alan levine: just leave eveything a;pme
[2014/5/14 19:04:50] alan levine: alone
[2014/5/14 19:04:52] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/14 19:05:21] John Lowe: well I need to carry on trading. Learning the way of it first.
[2014/5/14 19:06:07] John Lowe: I am sorry, but I realise that I am a beginner at this game.\
[2014/5/14 19:06:59] John Lowe: i want to be a successful trader and learn how to do it properly.
[2014/5/14 19:11:06] alan levine: understand
[2014/5/14 19:11:20] alan levine: we need funds deposited into your account ASAP
[2014/5/14 19:11:50] John Lowe: I told you before you placed all the trades, that I didnt have any more funds.
[2014/5/14 19:12:48] alan levine: no problem
[2014/5/14 19:13:07] John Lowe: so to get out of this state, I am asking you if it is Ok to place a Stop Loss on the opposing Buy on the same pair.
[2014/5/14 19:13:21] John Lowe: Then I can sort it.
[2014/5/14 19:13:31] alan levine: sure go for it
[2014/5/14 19:14:02] John Lowe: Ok. I will take the stop loss off afterwards.
[2014/5/14 19:14:18] alan levine: ok
[2014/5/14 19:15:08] John Lowe: thanks.
[2014/5/14 19:15:12] alan levine: :)
[2014/5/15 8:54:21] John Lowe: what has happened to my account Alan?
[2014/5/15 16:57:03] alan levine: hey buddy you had a stop out !!
[2014/5/15 16:57:12] alan levine: I am sorry to tell you
[2014/5/15 16:57:24] alan levine: I told you we needed funds but you had none
[2014/5/16 8:18:48] John Lowe: Why did you put accounts on there at $4? You did that to make sure I would have to add more funds! You have your interestes at heart and dont care about your clients! Very bad.
[2014/5/21 13:47:18] *** John Lowe blocked alan levine ***


I was used by Alan Levine.
He carried on until he blew out any credit that I had.
I wanted to learn how to trade. Now I am destitute.

Netotrade = Bad News!

John Lowe

From: john.lowe@hotmail.com
To: amy.t@netotrade.com
Subject: RE: We have tried to reach you
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 03:34:19 +0000


I would like to speak with you.
I would like to tell you that I am so upset at how I was treated by the CON ARTIST whose name is Alan Levine.
How do you employ such people in your organisation???
I was conned out of a lot of money, and now I am fighting to be allowed to live.

Alan Levine. Rip off.

That is how you treat people that are wanting to learn?
That is how you leave people once they have been fleeced of their last pennies???

Disgusted!

John Lowe.

John Lowe +44 (0)208 12345 50



From: john.lowe@hotmail.com
To: amy.t@netotrade.com
Subject: RE: We have tried to reach you
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 02:47:17 +0000


Dear Amy,

The best way is to ring the number below. I am usually available early mornings.
Or else you can write to john.lowe.engineer at Skype.

Regards, John Lowe

John Lowe +44 (0)208 12345 50


From: amy.t@netotrade.com
Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 10:05:15 +0300
Subject: We have tried to reach you
To: john.lowe@hotmail.com

Hello Mr. Lowe,



We have been trying to reach you, please let us know when is the best time to call you.



Best Regards

Amy Taylor

Compliance Representative

Netotrade.com

Phone: : +44-203-5143882 ext 124

E-mail: amy.taylor@netotrade.com
 

FxMaster

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Two steps that you must follow.

1st - Invite them via email (Send email to every possible address).

2nd - Go to there website and invite them to here via Live Chat.

Best Of Luck
 

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How and when did you deposit?

When you aren't in China, what country are you in?
 
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