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Binary Options Regulated and Scam Brokers

Shamefully for Dukas, if expiry price is the same as strike price the client looses the trade.

Remember what I said about lowered income leading to changes of the rules to maintain profits? Looks like Duka did a pre-emptive strike on this one. Now, any other binary broker can change their rules at some point to match and say "Dukascopy does it too." It will be like when airlines starting charging for the 2nd checked bag. At the beginning, only one did it. Now most do. Worse, many now also charge for the 1st checked bag.

Not every screwing over of clients involves altering trades, cheating on price feed, or blocking withdrawals. Some methods are perfectly legal.
 
Roaming, there are some factual errors in your response regarding Dukas:

1. The pricing is with 5 pips, not 4 pips

2. There are 18 Binary Options instruments now (6 new ones were added a few days ago)

3. The holding timeout after click is 5 seconds, not 3 seconds. But it's easy to protect yourself against spikes in this interval.



Maybe for technical traders. In my models I work 100% with tick data, I've stopped using candles a long time ago, so I actually like this aspect. I would even prefer being able to also specify the starting and finishing time to the second, not only to the minute, but I'm not complaining.

The 90% payout is technically variable, but I've never seen it otherwise (not that I've looked too much). At least they promise that this payout will be the same at one particular instance across all instruments, across all clients.

Funny, when I was naming Dukascopy's Pros like 90% and Swiss Bank, you were talking badly about it. When I started naming its Cons, you want to be on Dukas side:)

I know the pricing in 5 not 4 digits, rounded it to give a clear example;) You are mistaken in number of pairs, it's 13 Forex pairs available, stocks, indices commodities not yet available Dukas working on it as you can see it stated on its BO page. It's 5 seconds or had become from 3!!

you are wrongly trading when following tick data that means nothing esp. on BO brokers charts, candles do. Always make decisions depending on candles close/open, not middle or running candle price.
If I were to decide between a predetermined expiry time and a time you set for example 1 to 60 minutes with dukascopy, I'll always prefer the first.
It's more practical to the eye, mind and hand(click). Hard to open a position by setting 1 to 60 minutes, looking at the exact time candle will close or open then click call or put, not to forget the 5 second disadvantage. Do not know how you see it a Pro!! How will you protect yourself from spikes, you will most of times get a price worse than the one you want, esp. when you are a technical trader and maybe for short time frame traders or scalpers too.
In 5 seconds, the world change not just the market:)
 
Remember what I said about lowered income leading to changes of the rules to maintain profits? Looks like Duka did a pre-emptive strike on this one. Now, any other binary broker can change their rules at some point to match and say "Dukascopy does it too." It will be like when airlines starting charging for the 2nd checked bag. At the beginning, only one did it. Now most do. Worse, many now also charge for the 1st checked bag.

Not every screwing over of clients involves altering trades, cheating on price feed, or blocking withdrawals. Some methods are perfectly legal.

How can I not remember:D. Dukas can change the payout % too from 90% down to ZERO as have just read on its BO page.
If they had just 2 clients like me, they'll do that sooooon:D Nadex will be happy to offer Dukas my services at anytime they start sensing the money burn:p and that they need more losers than winners.

Seeing it from a different perspective after having built up argument with you and discovering Dukas BO terms(90% to 0% WOW!), have come to a conclusion that BO brokers who are unregulated or scam can cheat clients by the ways you mentioned price feed, withdrawals....etc

On the other hand, regulated respectful BO brokers "may" start reducing payout % or/and adding some rules like strike price= expiry price= 0 revenue, 5 seconds between the click and execution of order, spreads into call/put prices like Dukas does.
Seeing all these, I would say Dukas advantage will decrease quickly when it reduces the 90% on all pairs, because the other cons they have like spreads and 5 seconds, profitability or chance to be successful on the long run will also decrease dramatically even for good traders.

Sadly, we can not compare all reputable brokers together as each has different platform and trading options style, starting with the Nadex, IG.com and ETXCapital FCA regulation for both, Saxo Bank and Dukascopy.
 
Funny, when I was naming Dukascopy's Pros like 90% and Swiss Bank, you were talking badly about it.

I was not talking badly about them. I just said that their pricing model is not sustainable. As we will soon see when either they close or radically change their BOs, or when the flood of kicked out traders will appear here.

You are mistaken in number of pairs, it's 13 Forex pairs available, stocks, indices commodities not yet available Dukas working on it as you can see it stated on its BO page.

Even after I point out your mistakes still don't bother checking and insist with wrong facts.

Here is a picture from my live account. Count the instruments. 18. And before accusing me of Photoshopping, bother opening a demo account and seeing for yourself.

dukas_bo.png

It's 5 seconds or had become from 3!!

It was never 3 seconds.

you are wrongly trading when following tick data that means nothing esp. on BO brokers charts, candles do. Always make decisions depending on candles close/open, not middle or running candle price.
Let's see. Pretty much all algos use tick data exclusively and are highly profitable. Pretty much all retail traders use candles, and are highly unprofitable.

Hmm, I'll guess I'll take candles then. Yes. I mean everybody uses them, right?

It's more practical to the eye, mind and hand(click). Hard to open a position by setting 1 to 60 minutes, looking at the exact time candle will close or open then click call or put, not to forget the 5 second disadvantage. Do not know how you see it a Pro!! How will you protect yourself from spikes, you will most of times get a price worse than the one you want, esp. when you are a technical trader and maybe for short time frame traders or scalpers too.
In 5 seconds, the world change not just the market:)

Some traders don't have eyes and hands.

And like I said, you can protect yourself from spikes. How, that's for you to figure it out. And yes, I have a reason for not spelling it out.

Seeing it from a different perspective after having built up argument with you and discovering Dukas BO terms(90% to 0% WOW!),

Again, lazy fact checking. Dukas doesn't go from 90% to 0%. It goes from 90% to 70% OR 0%. So the valid range of payouts is 90, 85, 80, 75, 70, or BO trading is disabled.
 
Don't get too excited about "FCA Regulated" binary brokers. Based on the item below, I'm betting they are all passported or else are the unregulated side of a regulated retail forex broker.

This was posted in another thread. It's supposed to be from the FCA itself:

Binary options do not meet the Regulated Activities Order (RAO) definition for Contracts for Differences under Article 85 since they have a binary win / loss outcome rather than fluctuating in reference to an underlying asset value, price, index or other factor, as such, would not be regulated by the FCA (binary bets /options are regulated by the Gambling Commission under the Gambling Act 2005.

You can see the full text here:

https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/fore...er/35781-fca-confirms-ihoptions-com-scam.html

If this is correct, that further narrows down the field of "well regulated" binary brokers.
 
IG Markets is explicit about this.

To quote them:

... IG Index Limited (register number 114059) are authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority. Excludes binary bets, where IG Index Limited is licensed and regulated by the Gambling Commission, reference number...
 
Hmmmnnn.... I wonder what the UK Gambling Commission's rules for binaries are.
 
I was not talking badly about them. I just said that their pricing model is not sustainable. As we will soon see when either they close or radically change their BOs, or when the flood of kicked out traders will appear here.



Even after I point out your mistakes still don't bother checking and insist with wrong facts.

Here is a picture from my live account. Count the instruments. 18. And before accusing me of Photoshopping, bother opening a demo account and seeing for yourself.

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It was never 3 seconds.


Let's see. Pretty much all algos use tick data exclusively and are highly profitable. Pretty much all retail traders use candles, and are highly unprofitable.

Hmm, I'll guess I'll take candles then. Yes. I mean everybody uses them, right?



Some traders don't have eyes and hands.

And like I said, you can protect yourself from spikes. How, that's for you to figure it out. And yes, I have a reason for not spelling it out.



Again, lazy fact checking. Dukas doesn't go from 90% to 0%. It goes from 90% to 70% OR 0%. So the valid range of payouts is 90, 85, 80, 75, 70, or BO trading is disabled.

Not a Dukas client like you to "must know" its terms for Binary but what I checked and known are(will reply to your post within):

- Dukas Live Chat and support very ignorant and rude.

First, from my IP address they must have known that I am a US citizen and told me from the start, "we do not accept US Clients", other websites don't wait much, when I type their site address into my browser and enter.. they give me the warning...
It's live chat support are as if someone having a smoke, hamburger, leg on table, chatting with someone, and at end reply to my questions.
They told me that Dukas offer 14 Forex pairs only. The 5 seconds is right despite the support said it was 3 seconds then became 5 and mixed it between demo and live...whatever!!!

- I am not Dukas client and will not become(can't even if want and I don't:)), you are Dukas client and do not know what agreement you signed for your live account!!:

Dukascopy Bank reserves the right to change the payout ratio, at any time and at its own discretion, in the 90%-0% range

Unlike other brokers, Dukascopy Bank offers same payout ratios for all tradable instruments. However, as explained above, Dukascopy Bank may adapt the applicable payout ratio at its own discretion. When the payout ratio is modified, the change applies simultaneously to all instruments. At any time, the payout ratio is set at one of the six following levels(Changing or "let us be good" specifying its 90%-0% range sentence):
90%
85%
80%
75%
70%
0%

Can you read it well?!!! It can be 0% too. It does not matter if no %s in between it and 70%, I believe under 80% payout is very difficult for profiting on long term.

- 5 seconds is hilarious. What you said about it can be for your advantage is not accurate. Unless you are praying for each click of call or put that price continues some more fractions of pips in those 5 seconds. OR supposedly you want to put 1.3305 you click 1.3304 hoping price will spike to 1.3305 or more in the 5 seconds delay!!! In any way you are trading unless you are not a technical trader, 5 seconds delay is stupid and disadvantage for clients without adding like other European BO brokers the apply/cancel tab in that interval.
However you want to explain it, there's no trick nothing, does not matter if candles or ticks, simply you get the price you want or trading on 5 seconds interval is PURE GAMBLING and you'll be trading BO as if playing in the Casino as Pharaoh suggests.

- The 90%(worse when it becomes lower!!) is useless when knowing that Dukas ends your position in loss if your executed price and expiry price ends the same, this is pure cheating on clients, but you know it in advance:)))


- Also knowing that spreads apply, can be horrible in low volatility market, big disadvantage!!

- I also insist that with no pre-determined expiry price it will be hard for many traders to be profitable, between looking for candle open/close or tick whatever and setting 1 to 60 minute expiry time at same instant!!! Pre-determined expiry time much clearer, easy to trade. I believe no broker other than Dukas use it!!!

- The take it all or nothing is very direct with Dukas while other BO brokers give you the option of getting at least something back.

Summing it up, = price to expiry price = empty handed, 5 seconds and spreads!!! What is left from the 90%?? If it stays like that!!!
Other European BO brokers have 80-85% without spreads without 5 seconds with half hand(investment)

Nothing left in Dukas BO than Swiss Bank Regulation.
 
Don't get too excited about "FCA Regulated" binary brokers. Based on the item below, I'm betting they are all passported or else are the unregulated side of a regulated retail forex broker.

This was posted in another thread. It's supposed to be from the FCA itself:



You can see the full text here:

https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/fore...er/35781-fca-confirms-ihoptions-com-scam.html

If this is correct, that further narrows down the field of "well regulated" binary brokers.

If what am seeing with my own eyes is true, FCA must be asked why ETXCapital.com write on its website about FCA regulation....???
Monecor (London) Ltd is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. Authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority with Financial Services register number 124721
Why not directly "regulated by the Gambling Commission under the Gambling Act 2005", like IG.com does?? If it's to deceive, FCA must act!
 
Hmmmnnn.... I wonder what the UK Gambling Commission's rules for binaries are.

Any official website for UK Gambling.....??

Found a European regulated broker, OptionTrade is powered by HF Markets (Europe) Ltd. which is Regulated by the Cyprus Securities and Exchange Commission (CySEC) under license number 183/12.

You are not gonna get rid of me soon:p If I find none left, will create my own BO company and get regulated at all costs;)

By the way, I see many Forex and BO brokers get regulated by FCA, CySec, FINMA and others with a different company name, working in different fields under same license. I wonder how much that is legal, for example "We are FCA Regulated" searching it we figure UK Gambling Commission!!!!!
If we check further in regulation terms, might be surprised with CySec and FINMA too!!!
Moreover, One broker provides all in one services, Forex, Stock, Commodity, Spread Betting, BO......etc

Regulation gives all these services!?!! Has more options than Shopping Malls:D
 
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