Problem Triumphfx is a problem broker with GM Trader (PAMM plan)

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Why would metaquote provide platform to broker that do not have integrity? If they knew about this concern?

Yea, not sure when will this investment group run away with such a little amount of money. Imagine right now the popular investment companies are JJPTR, IGOFX, SVI, O2, SVI, GRS, forex4you, FXunited(closed)...etc, all offer super high of profit return, say 20%, 30%, 45%.., just started 2 years ago? and some just a couple of months back. Imagine, their fund size already more than millions, jjptr is billions in such a short period of time. I would say, this GM and triumphfx is damn idiot, since want to scam ppl money, why not offer higher profit return, only 3-5%, at least make themselves competitive to those available on markets. Over a few years of times, the fund size not grow as fast as the rest who just newly started. I guess, they plan to scam ppl forever, maybe 5 years, 10 years. Yet, common sense that majority of people all attracted to high profit, in this case, they gonna eat themselves already.

It seems to me that you need to study and read more and more for forums on how those long term scam works.

With such 3-5% ROI a month, the payout is slow and they have more time to cater more investors while at the same time, the current inflows can cover for the low ROI payout.

Good luck to you.

 

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It seems to me that you need to study and read more and more for forums on how those long term scam works.

With such 3-5% ROI a month, the payout is slow and they have more time to cater more investors while at the same time, the current inflows can cover for the low ROI payout.

Good luck to you.

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The issue is, they hardly can get investor especially with many of investments that offer high ROI, imagine 20%,30%,45% fixed per per month in the market XD. And since they good at readjust the trade system, they could have make it more attractive, more profit make from the trade and , more trades in a month of time, from there can increase the % of ROI and fight with the rest of the scam investment who offer super duper high in market. Else, according to the marketing strategy and attractive offer from other investment team, they can run away with all investors fund in one or two year with billions of funds, and this stupid GM have to scam for 10 to 20 years, and yet don't even attract investors to invest in them. XD

Not a brilliant scammer, I would say! Damn idiot! XD just like those mutual trust, bonds offer from bank yeah? Tied you for 5 to 10 years, pay all admin plus maintenance fee, when reaching maturity period, after deducted all fees, still lose in overall, not even mention about the depreciation of money value over the years. What a long term scammer.

 

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The issue is, they hardly can get investor especially with many of investments that offer high ROI, imagine 20%,30%,45% fixed per per month in the market XD. And since they good at readjust the trade system, they could have make it more attractive, more profit make from the trade and , more trades in a month of time, from there can increase the % of ROI and fight with the rest of the scam investment who offer super duper high in market. Else, according to the marketing strategy and attractive offer from other investment team, they can run away with all investors fund in one or two year with billions of funds, and this stupid GM have to scam for 10 to 20 years, and yet don't even attract investors to invest in them. XD

Not a brilliant scammer, I would say! Damn idiot! XD just like those mutual trust, bonds offer from bank yeah? Tied you for 5 to 10 years, pay all admin plus maintenance fee, when reaching maturity period, after deducted all fees, still lose in overall, not even mention about the depreciation of money value over the years. What a long term scammer.

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Since you able to log in the account, go check for the past few months, was it inflow higher than outflow? They don't keep any profit that make in the pool like what other investment company doing, so how much make in that month, total all withdraw and distributed. And it is clearly that, even maintainin the amount of capital in the account, yet every month outflow still more than inflow.

 

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The issue is, they hardly can get investor especially with many of investments that offer high ROI, imagine 20%,30%,45% fixed per per month in the market XD. And since they good at readjust the trade system, they could have make it more attractive, more profit make from the trade and , more trades in a month of time, from there can increase the % of ROI and fight with the rest of the scam investment who offer super duper high in market. Else, according to the marketing strategy and attractive offer from other investment team, they can run away with all investors fund in one or two year with billions of funds, and this stupid GM have to scam for 10 to 20 years, and yet don't even attract investors to invest in them. XD

Not a brilliant scammer, I would say! Damn idiot! XD just like those mutual trust, bonds offer from bank yeah? Tied you for 5 to 10 years, pay all admin plus maintenance fee, when reaching maturity period, after deducted all fees, still lose in overall, not even mention about the depreciation of money value over the years. What a long term scammer.

You will know soon. Time will tell.

I personally encountered another broker with this type of scam few years ago and the trades are still in trading since 2014 but the account and the broker have been run away.

I can show you the MT4 login. You can study during your sleep time as you will think better logically.

 

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What a standard procedure from a scammer company, usually they will set a maximum limit with a period of time for investor to follow. Which mean, they need sometime for they to roll over the cash from new comer to pay off the existing one. And this is observable in all investment companies that currently popular in market.
However, in GM, they don't lock your capital, don't restrict the maximum limit of your invest fund, which mean investor they can scam them XD. So where does the concern of inflow more than outflow? When you don't set a limit for your outflow(anytime investor withdraw) neither inflow (anytime huge fund investing in) how can you plan well for your cash flow? That's the reason of why, it is a profit sharing, total how much profit make in the month, divided by total capital amount during the closure time. So whatever profit make, all no longer in the account, whatever account have is only invested capital. Which mean, without new investor join in, the capital is fine and yet, how much of profit that make from the market, that's the amount that distribute to all. The capital is sitting there with no move, unless investor detach it. Too, all fund transaction in and out all clearly indicated with traceability and notes. Fair enough to every one.

Other investment companies? They tell you a fixed high profit return- come one, if you do trading, you should know how the hell that you can make so much every month with fixed %? Then, offer their investor if they don't withdraw, their profit will auto grow profit, which mean the pool is easily growing big.

 

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What a standard procedure from a scammer company, usually they will set a maximum limit with a period of time for investor to follow. Which mean, they need sometime for they to roll over the cash from new comer to pay off the existing one. And this is observable in all investment companies that currently popular in market.
However, in GM, they don't lock your capital, don't restrict the maximum limit of your invest fund, which mean investor they can scam them XD. So where does the concern of inflow more than outflow? When you don't set a limit for your outflow(anytime investor withdraw) neither inflow (anytime huge fund investing in) how can you plan well for your cash flow? That's the reason of why, it is a profit sharing, total how much profit make in the month, divided by total capital amount during the closure time. So whatever profit make, all no longer in the account, whatever account have is only invested capital. Which mean, without new investor join in, the capital is fine and yet, how much of profit that make from the market, that's the amount that distribute to all. The capital is sitting there with no move, unless investor detach it. Too, all fund transaction in and out all clearly indicated with traceability and notes. Fair enough to every one.

Other investment companies? They tell you a fixed high profit return- come one, if you do trading, you should know how the hell that you can make so much every month with fixed %? Then, offer their investor if they don't withdraw, their profit will auto grow profit, which mean the pool is easily growing big.

You are not mature enough. Don't use such standards to determine the definition of scams.

Creating false trades by cheating investors are 100% defined as scam.

Till to-date, you have yet to contact MQ about the trade ID and its time stamping. Contact them and you will get the clearance.

 

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You will know soon. Time will tell.

I personally encountered another broker with this type of scam few years ago and the trades are still in trading since 2014 but the account and the broker have been run away.

I can show you the MT4 login. You can study during your sleep time as you will think better logically.

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Well, they are expanding the trader team. So if you are good with your trading records, (have to show your trading results over years) you may be able to get hire to be one of the trader in the team.

With that, you can clearly find out everything yourself. Interested?

 

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Since you able to log in the account, go check for the past few months, was it inflow higher than outflow? They don't keep any profit that make in the pool like what other investment company doing, so how much make in that month, total all withdraw and distributed. And it is clearly that, even maintainin the amount of capital in the account, yet every month outflow still more than inflow.

I am not interested to find out and check out such.

As long as cheating is concerned, it is scam already.

Reasons
1. With the evidences I showed in post 1 and 2.
2. With another evidences I got which is more terrible and if you see such, you can't believe so. But you will still find other bias explanations to defense yourself or for them. Thus, I am not showing it openly or through public.

 

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You are not mature enough. Don't use such standards to determine the definition of scams.

Creating false trades by cheating investors are 100% defined as scam.

Till to-date, you have yet to contact MQ about the trade ID and its time stamping. Contact them and you will get the clearance.

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Till date, Why the MQ didn't take any action when their client is a scammer? Sigh.

I am mature or not has nothing to do with the analysis on this concern. But one thing for sure, you couldn't convinced yourself when every points out together in the analysis though. That's why, no matter how, you want to pin point on something that make you feel you are right. Even though inside your heart, you can't reason out everything.

What I'm trying to tell you, that's not smart to create the false trades with low ROI, and yet every month have to pay out the profit from own pocket. Without attractive offer package, couldn't attract investor and Investor doesn't grow as fast as also not as much as what other investment is currently doing. Well, something for sure to be noticed, according to your thought, they manage to create false entry price, but able to predict well on the market trend with precise price action strategy (pre-defined target), what a great help to the rest of trader- not referring to investor XD

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I have a question, but sorry dont take it hard. I wonder, are you one of those scammer from other investment groups which currently fighting hard to get investor?
Because, if you are so concern in this investment scammer issue, you would have to investigate all others that currently have more investors, more funds in the pool and most popular running in market for your analysis. Also those investment's system(JJPTR, GSR, Richway, O2,IGOFX,forex4you, SVI,EEC..etc) is damn super obvious with all the scammer traits. You could have save billions of life man instead of thousands.
However, i had research above all investment type, the only point that I could see, is this GM investment don't have similar system with above (maybe that's why not attractive and not popular). However, one thing is different with above is they have a clear and transparent system, in and out pretty straight forward with no other weird rule and game. And then, you are shouting of scammer by looking only at this point of "transparency", hmp..damn suspicious. Let say, amongst all investment companies on market, 10 things to review for each of the group, and 9 of 10 smell the fishy for every group, you ignored. However, you pick the one and only one that not as popular as above, totally don't have similar system. Well, thanks for your little findings, I'm sure you will share more of the rest of investment group which is currently super hot on the market with us too. Looking forward from your findings and analysis for those investment companies. As I have many known ppl all invested in those.

 

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Till date, Why the MQ didn't take any action when their client is a scammer? Sigh.

I am mature or not has nothing to do with the analysis on this concern. But one thing for sure, you couldn't convinced yourself when every points out together in the analysis though. That's why, no matter how, you want to pin point on something that make you feel you are right. Even though inside your heart, you can't reason out everything.

What I'm trying to tell you, that's not smart to create the false trades with low ROI, and yet every month have to pay out the profit from own pocket. Without attractive offer package, couldn't attract investor and Investor doesn't grow as fast as also not as much as what other investment is currently doing. Well, something for sure to be noticed, according to your thought, they manage to create false entry price, but able to predict well on the market trend with precise price action strategy (pre-defined target), what a great help to the rest of trader- not referring to investor XD

Wow. You are such great guy to defense the company and the team using this point.

Scammer does not need to predict the market or price or trade. According to the finding and results, they do not need to predict anything. They just need to simply get in the trade when GOLD is up at creating false trade time and adjust the time back to few hours later to the price before up. Set the SL to Trailing stop and such trade is guaranteed.

Till to this point, you have yet to understand how they create false entry/trade.

You must be someone from GM or the broker or the investors who fail to accept this fact.