Ponzi Scheme investing4you.co.uk scam forex investment

[MikeFair]

As a quadillionaire?? Let's be realistic here

Yes, yes be realistic here.

Generating annual returns of >15% consistently would make you one of the world's best fund managers.

Annual returns. Please let that sink in. I shall repeat it just to make sure it sinks in for you.

Annual returns.
Annual returns.
Annual returns.

These are all numbers directly from the I4U website / Transaction Report so it's fact.

Declan over an 8 week period did this for his clients.

Week 1 - 14.95%
Week 2 - 18.80%
Week 3 - 18.39%
Week 4 - 22.84%
Week 5 - 20.24%
Week 6 - 10.27%
Week 7 - No Trading took place Declan was having a well-deserved break.
Week 8 - 18.99%

Declan's average over the above weeks? - 17.18% Weekly.
Declan's total over the above weeks? - 124.48%

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Declan is outperforming every single one of the best performing Hedge Funds.

The best Fund Manager on this list Alex Sacerdote over 3 years managed 192.48%.

Top Hedge Funds for 2022/2023

The top 20 performing hedge funds as of Q3 2023, ranked by their annualized 3 year performance.

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If we take 15% a month return average put it over 3 years it would be 2340%. Declan's averaging 17.18%

This makes Declan currently the Best Fund Manager in the world.

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Let's look at Warren Buffett - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Buffett

Warren Buffett is widely regarded as a legend in the financial world.

Between 1965 and 2009 he averaged 20.3% annual returns.

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I can see the issue here Wengerin. Can you?

Declan does in 1 week what others do in 1 year.

Impossible - No.
Realistic - No.

 

[Jump2]

How is commenting in here buying time or making excuses.
Swear to god u hate mob really are something to behold. You're a really special lot trully.
And the fact that the few of you with any intelligence actually stand on the same side as these half witts is beyond comical.
The ones that have put money in (more money than they can afford judging by the bitterness) and then crying about the messiah and this and that yet they put loads of money in. And then to join the hate mob after putting more money in than they can afford.
Words can not describe you

Wake up they are not peeved because they put money into something legitimate and lost it, which is the risk you take with the markets let me put it in layman terms they are peeved because all signs and I mean ALL show it is a scam ie hard working people were ripped off with something that was never legit from day one, get with the program

 

[uptheiron]

To give the victims an idea of timeframe, alistair Greig operated a £13m Ponzi scheme and was sentenced to prison in 2020, he was sent down for 14 years.

The police were first aware of his scam in summer of 2014 and the police took 14 months before they charged Greig as they had to sift through all the evidence.

 

[Themagicman]

To give the victims an idea of timeframe, alistair Greig operated a £13m Ponzi scheme and was sentenced to prison in 2020, he was sent down for 14 years.

The police were first aware of his scam in summer of 2014 and the police took 14 months before they charged Greig as they had to sift through all the evidence.

What he is saying is that, the police have been involved now and obviously took i4u devices.. would they not of seen by now if he made a trade or not? Cause if he didnt and he was just taking money of people he wouldnt be here right now. So explain this one hoodle and mike.

 

[Wengerin]

Wake up they are not peeved because they put money into something legitimate and lost it, which is the risk you take with the markets let me put it in layman terms they are peeved because all signs and I mean ALL show it is a scam ie hard working people were ripped off with something that was never legit from day one, get with the program

That's my point if all signs show scam why put so much in? Let's say they started small and then kept putting more in. Why do that? And then to be on here crying after you kept putting money in?
I know people that started with £500 if it works out it works out. If not it's not the end of the world. And no need to rush things as it will be a million in a year.
So again if you wanted to pile too much do t be on here calling out fan boys n laughing at the impossible returns. You and only you chose to put your hard earned money in

 

[Wengerin]

To give the victims an idea of timeframe, alistair Greig operated a £13m Ponzi scheme and was sentenced to prison in 2020, he was sent down for 14 years.

The police were first aware of his scam in summer of 2014 and the police took 14 months before they charged Greig as they had to sift through all the evidence.

Did Alistair hand over phone and laptop at first time of asking and sit at home waiting to go to jail, knowing full well what they will find?
If this is a ponzi their is no getting around the matter no matter how fancy your lawyers are right?

 

[MikeFair]

That's my point if all signs show scam why put so much in? Let's say they started small and then kept putting more in. Why do that? And then to be on here crying after you kept putting money in?
I know people that started with £500 if it works out it works out. If not it's not the end of the world. And no need to rush things as it will be a million in a year.
So again if you wanted to pile too much do t be on here calling out fan boys n laughing at the impossible returns. You and only you chose to put your hard earned money in

I agree with you people have been naive, not done any due diligence or research into investing their money, and it's their money to do what they want with.

The problem with your point is the blame is now being shifted to innocent customers of Declan who have done nothing more than being a little silly with their own money.

However did they all not put their money into what they deemed to be an authorized, regulated, insured company? I'm sure every person who put money in did not at that point believe anything untoward was going on and the Declan was 100% legitimate.

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If we look at the opposite point, if we do not shift blame to the clients then it all comes down to a relatively simple fraud case does it not?

Under UK law, fraud is defined as:

• making a dishonest representation for your own advantage or to cause another a loss
• dishonestly neglecting to disclose information when you had a duty to do so
• abusing your position, if you have a duty to protect the financial interests of others and you fail in this for the purpose of your own gain to cause another to make a loss
• false accounting
• using accounting documents which you know are misleading
• conspiring with others to commit fraud by agreeing to do something which causes loss to a third party

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Dishonest representation for your own advantage - Why yes I'm FCA authorized / regulated company (dishonest) and can make you 3% a day return on investment all I ask is 20% commission (advantage).

Dishonestly neglecting to disclose information when you had a duty to do so - why yes I will get those complete transaction records of each trade your money was involved in right over to you!

 

[Wengerin]

I agree with you people have been naive, not done any due diligence or research into investing their money, and it's their money to do what they want with.

The problem with your point is the blame is now being shifted to innocent customers of Declan who have done nothing more than being a little silly with their own money.

However did they all not put their money into what they deemed to be an authorized, regulated, insured company? I'm sure every person who put money in did not at that point believe anything untoward was going on and the Declan was 100% legitimate.

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If we look at the opposite point, if we do not shift blame to the clients then it all comes down to a relatively simple fraud case does it not?

Under UK law, fraud is defined as:

• making a dishonest representation for your own advantage or to cause another a loss
• dishonestly neglecting to disclose information when you had a duty to do so
• abusing your position, if you have a duty to protect the financial interests of others and you fail in this for the purpose of your own gain to cause another to make a loss
• false accounting
• using accounting documents which you know are misleading
• conspiring with others to commit fraud by agreeing to do something which causes loss to a third party

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Dishonest representation for your own advantage - Why yes I'm FCA authorized / regulated company (dishonest) and can make you 3% a day return on investment all I ask is 20% commission (advantage).

Dishonestly neglecting to disclose information when you had a duty to do so - why yes I will get those complete transaction records of each trade your money was involved in right over to you!

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Absolute rubbish. You are no expert and have stated so. You should know better than to post such nonsense....

I agree with you people have been naive, not done any due diligence or research into investing their money, and it's their money to do what they want with.

The problem with your point is the blame is now being shifted to innocent customers of Declan who have done nothing more than being a little silly with their own money.

However did they all not put their money into what they deemed to be an authorized, regulated, insured company? I'm sure every person who put money in did not at that point believe anything untoward was going on and the Declan was 100% legitimate.

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If we look at the opposite point, if we do not shift blame to the clients then it all comes down to a relatively simple fraud case does it not?

Under UK law, fraud is defined as:

• making a dishonest representation for your own advantage or to cause another a loss
• dishonestly neglecting to disclose information when you had a duty to do so
• abusing your position, if you have a duty to protect the financial interests of others and you fail in this for the purpose of your own gain to cause another to make a loss
• false accounting
• using accounting documents which you know are misleading
• conspiring with others to commit fraud by agreeing to do something which causes loss to a third party

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Dishonest representation for your own advantage - Why yes I'm FCA authorized / regulated company (dishonest) and can make you 3% a day return on investment all I ask is 20% commission (advantage).

Dishonestly neglecting to disclose information when you had a duty to do so - why yes I will get those complete transaction records of each trade your money was involved in right over to you!

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In the contracts clients signed did it say he was FCA approved?
Did it say he would make them even a profit, let alone double their money every month (after commission was taken out)
No it did not.

Did he say why yes I will get that transaction report over to you?
Show me screen shot of this allegation.

I'm not saying your wrong in that he should show proof of trades BUT I know a client who gave him money and sat and waited never asked for a report. Had no reason to believe it was a ponzi. Seen people get money out and was bidding his time with a small deposit.
So never asked and the fact was never shown doesn't prove a ponzi wat so ever.
Whether it should of been shown or not.
So do you have the screenshot of a client asking for a report and not recieving BEFORE accounts were frozen?

 

[MikeFair]

In the contracts clients signed did it say he was FCA approved?
Did it say he would make them even a profit, let alone double their money every month (after commission was taken out)
No it did not.

Did he say why yes I will get that transaction report over to you?
Show me screen shot of this allegation.

I'm not saying your wrong in that he should show proof of trades BUT I know a client who gave him money and sat and waited never asked for a report. Had no reason to believe it was a ponzi. Seen people get money out and was bidding his time with a small deposit.
So never asked and the fact was never shown doesn't prove a ponzi wat so ever.
Whether it should of been shown or not.
So do you have the screenshot of a client asking for a report and not recieving BEFORE accounts were frozen?

Did it say he would make them even a profit, let alone double their money every month (after commission was taken out)
No it did not.

OK you got me on the profits - well played sir.

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In the contracts clients signed did it say he was FCA approved?

You mean the contracts clients signed in agreement to a fraudulent and none authorized company? Go back to "Dishonest representation for your own advantage". The contract has no mention of the FCA status or authorization, or an FCA reference.

Declan represented himself / I4U as FCA Authrioised or the application was in progress or he did not need FCA authorization and a few other elaborate ways of saying he was permitted to carry on regulated activities to clients and potential via Facebook, Text Message, In Person, Phone Calls etc.

In the contract / not in the contract - it does not matter either way.

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If however, you do want to go down the whole contract is an enforceable route then by all means lets explore the contract!

I don't need a screenshot of a client asking for a report BEFORE accounts were frozen. A contract was posted dated 03/02/2021 what is far before accounts were frozen on 30/07/21

"Did he say why yes I will get that transaction report over to you?
Show me screen shot of this allegation."

"I'm not saying your wrong in that he should show proof of trades BUT I know a client who gave him money and sat and waited never asked for a report. "

Like you said in a previous post it's all the client's fault that they did not get something contractually agreed with Declan and it's their money and it's their fault.

Wait no... it's not a client's fault it's Declan's he did not provide something he agreed he would in a contract.

Remember - Dishonestly neglecting to disclose information when you had a duty to do so

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I've never once said Declan is running a Ponzi* - go look at my post history. The only time I've even mentioned the word, Ponzi* is this sentence right here saying I've never said Ponzi*.

Then this post clarifying I had never said Ponzi*.

Ponzi Scheme - investing4you.co.uk scam forex investment

We should all be sharing helping each other So any of the clients who have had a lot of money out and spent it innocently thinking they have won an investment how do they pay it back will a payment plan be able to be agreed? there will be a lot of suicidal people if not

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*Just to clarify me saying Ponzi is by no means an accusation of Declan running a Ponzi Scheme. Ponzi. Ponzi. Ponzi.

 

[Uptheironz]

Mike fair/Brad marris/up the iron !! serious question what will you do with your life when this is all over ? What did you do with your life before ??