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Problem Unlicensed Cang Limited and/or Elderton Capital Limited - want fees before withdrawals

I am having an issue with a company
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Hello everybody, if someone can help me on the subject, it will be helfull...
I know that I could be naive, or stupid, but I have been scammed in august - september this year. The scam is based on Forex trading, using Metatrader 5 as support. However, having the app installed on a mobile or on a laptop is not enough to start trading activities. You have to found a broker to allow you an access and a real possibility to act on Forex. I contacted the HKSFC in Hong Kong as the broker seems to be located in HK.
HKSFC replied to me that there was no company (Cang Limited or Elderton Capital Limited) licenced in HK for trading activities.
However, the companies exist in HK (see companies reference at the end of the email).

The story start like this:
I met a Korean woman (Xueer Han phone: +49 1520 420 4493 german number but she has also a Hong Kong Phone number that I didn't catch at the time) on the telegram social network. She explained to me that she is doing trading under the advices of her uncle who is a CEO of a big financial company in Korea.
The 12/08/2022 I opened an account with Cang Limited (account 108113) with Mr Chen Dong the broker (phone number: +852 9022 7160). As initial bet I put 400 usd sent by ERC20 crypto (see table of transaction here below)
I created my account using account.grandcang.com/login
I have experienced some good earning with the advice of Mrs Han. +643.57 usd in 5 trading cession. I reveice the indication from Mrs Han, the hour to start/stop the trade, the lot, the currency, and if I have to buy or sell. The time slot was always the same: 10 minutes. I had to open and close in time.

Transaction 1: 12/08/2022 400 USDT
Address 0xBc90E57D7d96D91E835170F05c9b82414Add7816
Hash 0x0b0c91353c89ebcce1225b8c17d2379da8a71180de000182d8710e92f4f98652
Transaction 2: 22/08/2022 1906 USDT
Address 0xf6d5cB6965C60236E6171494465e0D380bcbfD86
Hash 0x0bf2b93c75b048ae90e7ee71991437952bcc5a0971490026aca125328e257959
Transaction 3: 29/08/2022 2000 USDT
Address 0xf6d5cB6965C60236E6171494465e0D380bcbfD86
Hash 0x2d07f88e347f7923c24bb010c03532511770297ceecec4b3acb8071a0e47adbe
Transaction 4: 16/09/2022 1900 USDT
Address THjzDhYXCZesZbDnL2PVnPvzx4qZPx1kHU
Hash 29af09f0f627d1f5e79e26acd509dbe45747310a39b9ac1824965f7077cae40d
Transaction 5: 21/09/2022 3018,20 USDT
Address THjzDhYXCZesZbDnL2PVnPvzx4qZPx1kHU
Hash 195604d99e21b20d47dd53031ac97399b4ddea2bb9c2391347b1c0fe45cc29ba


The 29/08/2022 I put additional 1900 usd. The 21/09/2022 the broker informed me that I have to change my account from Cang Limited (account 108113) to Elderton Capital (account 2501124).
My account at this moment was +26602.50 usd. I receive also a link to create my account on a website. m.buxglobalfx.com/#/home?num=0
The 22/09/2022 my Elderton account was effective and the 26602.50 were transferred to the new trading account.
The 22/09/2022 I put additional 3018.20 usd adviced by Mrs Han. Her uncle will be soon retired and if I want to make money, I need to put more on my account. It was logic. My account reaches more than 80000usd. With the recommendation of trading, each time I won. However, I was interested by the currency charts. I saw that all the advices was only done during 10 minutes and I have found that during 20 minutes there was a suddent movement on the charts, up or down. After this analysis I have tried by myself. When I saw such movement, I decided to buy or sell the currency according the chart.
In 2 days, I have won a lot. My account is now at 481621.70 usd.

The 28/09/2022 I contacted the broker to make a withdrawal. After 3 days I have received a message...
"Hello Mr Karpiez,
Feedback from the system background:
We regret to inform you that because your profit exceeds USD 50,000, your funds will be frozen by the Bank Management Committee and you need to pay a 5% deposit.
The total capital of your account (2501124) is: 481621.7USDT, so you need to pay a deposit of 24082USDT.
Please pay it within 3 working days. After completing the payment, your account (2501124) will be released and normal deposits and withdrawals can be made. If you fail to pay the guarantee fee for more than 3 working days, 3% of the total amount of your account will be paid as liquidated damages every day.
Thank you for your understanding and support, and wish you a happy life."

Naturally, Now, my account is frozen. I propose to the broker to take a part of my account to pay the tax. I propose an agreement, they just give me back the 10000usd that I put with my personal money...and we stop here. They can have all the founds.
They refuse. After that I have checked everything and I found with comparing the MT5 trends from Elderton and the MT5 trends from demo account. There are main difference. Elderton is tampering the charts. They are doing artificial up and down to allow a manipulation of the charts and so the gain are easy. I understood at this moment that there is no money, no gain. The only real money is the money I put in the account from my wallet. This is a fake account with only goal to incite deposits and when a withdrawal is requested, a ranssom is claimed.
I propose again to the broker to keep all the money of my account and only recover the initial bet I made of 10000usd. He refuses. How can you refuse such offer if the money is real.
I know that it will completely impossible to recover my money. My goal now, is to do all my possible, to stop them, perhaps catch them and stop these scam process.
I even assume that the broker could have in paralell some normal activities and the scam is only engage with some people selected by their lack of knowledge on the Forex.
Now I have all the crypto wallets address, the hash of transactions and found them using these information is something easy for investigation companies, or authorities.
I have reported this scam to HK police, HKSFC, French police, Binance (my personal wallet platform) and Australian authorities as Elderton Capital Limited has its mother company in Australia.
 
Hello everybody, if someone can help me on the subject, it will be helfull...
I know that I could be naive, or stupid, but I have been scammed in august - september this year. The scam is based on Forex trading, using Metatrader 5 as support. However, having the app installed on a mobile or on a laptop is not enough to start trading activities. You have to found a broker to allow you an access and a real possibility to act on Forex. I contacted the HKSFC in Hong Kong as the broker seems to be located in HK.
HKSFC replied to me that there was no company (Cang Limited or Elderton Capital Limited) licenced in HK for trading activities.
However, the companies exist in HK (see companies reference at the end of the email).

The story start like this:
I met a Korean woman (Xueer Han phone: +49 1520 420 4493 german number but she has also a Hong Kong Phone number that I didn't catch at the time) on the telegram social network. She explained to me that she is doing trading under the advices of her uncle who is a CEO of a big financial company in Korea.
The 12/08/2022 I opened an account with Cang Limited (account 108113) with Mr Chen Dong the broker (phone number: +852 9022 7160). As initial bet I put 400 usd sent by ERC20 crypto (see table of transaction here below)
I created my account using account.grandcang.com/login
I have experienced some good earning with the advice of Mrs Han. +643.57 usd in 5 trading cession. I reveice the indication from Mrs Han, the hour to start/stop the trade, the lot, the currency, and if I have to buy or sell. The time slot was always the same: 10 minutes. I had to open and close in time.

Transaction 1: 12/08/2022 400 USDT
Address 0xBc90E57D7d96D91E835170F05c9b82414Add7816
Hash 0x0b0c91353c89ebcce1225b8c17d2379da8a71180de000182d8710e92f4f98652
Transaction 2: 22/08/2022 1906 USDT
Address 0xf6d5cB6965C60236E6171494465e0D380bcbfD86
Hash 0x0bf2b93c75b048ae90e7ee71991437952bcc5a0971490026aca125328e257959
Transaction 3: 29/08/2022 2000 USDT
Address 0xf6d5cB6965C60236E6171494465e0D380bcbfD86
Hash 0x2d07f88e347f7923c24bb010c03532511770297ceecec4b3acb8071a0e47adbe
Transaction 4: 16/09/2022 1900 USDT
Address THjzDhYXCZesZbDnL2PVnPvzx4qZPx1kHU
Hash 29af09f0f627d1f5e79e26acd509dbe45747310a39b9ac1824965f7077cae40d
Transaction 5: 21/09/2022 3018,20 USDT
Address THjzDhYXCZesZbDnL2PVnPvzx4qZPx1kHU
Hash 195604d99e21b20d47dd53031ac97399b4ddea2bb9c2391347b1c0fe45cc29ba


The 29/08/2022 I put additional 1900 usd. The 21/09/2022 the broker informed me that I have to change my account from Cang Limited (account 108113) to Elderton Capital (account 2501124).
My account at this moment was +26602.50 usd. I receive also a link to create my account on a website. m.buxglobalfx.com/#/home?num=0
The 22/09/2022 my Elderton account was effective and the 26602.50 were transferred to the new trading account.
The 22/09/2022 I put additional 3018.20 usd adviced by Mrs Han. Her uncle will be soon retired and if I want to make money, I need to put more on my account. It was logic. My account reaches more than 80000usd. With the recommendation of trading, each time I won. However, I was interested by the currency charts. I saw that all the advices was only done during 10 minutes and I have found that during 20 minutes there was a suddent movement on the charts, up or down. After this analysis I have tried by myself. When I saw such movement, I decided to buy or sell the currency according the chart.
In 2 days, I have won a lot. My account is now at 481621.70 usd.

The 28/09/2022 I contacted the broker to make a withdrawal. After 3 days I have received a message...
"Hello Mr Karpiez,
Feedback from the system background:
We regret to inform you that because your profit exceeds USD 50,000, your funds will be frozen by the Bank Management Committee and you need to pay a 5% deposit.
The total capital of your account (2501124) is: 481621.7USDT, so you need to pay a deposit of 24082USDT.
Please pay it within 3 working days. After completing the payment, your account (2501124) will be released and normal deposits and withdrawals can be made. If you fail to pay the guarantee fee for more than 3 working days, 3% of the total amount of your account will be paid as liquidated damages every day.
Thank you for your understanding and support, and wish you a happy life."

Naturally, Now, my account is frozen. I propose to the broker to take a part of my account to pay the tax. I propose an agreement, they just give me back the 10000usd that I put with my personal money...and we stop here. They can have all the founds.
They refuse. After that I have checked everything and I found with comparing the MT5 trends from Elderton and the MT5 trends from demo account. There are main difference. Elderton is tampering the charts. They are doing artificial up and down to allow a manipulation of the charts and so the gain are easy. I understood at this moment that there is no money, no gain. The only real money is the money I put in the account from my wallet. This is a fake account with only goal to incite deposits and when a withdrawal is requested, a ranssom is claimed.
I propose again to the broker to keep all the money of my account and only recover the initial bet I made of 10000usd. He refuses. How can you refuse such offer if the money is real.
I know that it will completely impossible to recover my money. My goal now, is to do all my possible, to stop them, perhaps catch them and stop these scam process.
I even assume that the broker could have in paralell some normal activities and the scam is only engage with some people selected by their lack of knowledge on the Forex.
Now I have all the crypto wallets address, the hash of transactions and found them using these information is something easy for investigation companies, or authorities.
I have reported this scam to HK police, HKSFC, French police, Binance (my personal wallet platform) and Australian authorities as Elderton Capital Limited has its mother company in Australia.
Can we have a website address, please?
 
Did you try contacting GASO globalantiscam.org ?

They are a non profit organization specializing in cases like yours. They will direct you on what to do after this scam.
Hi,
Thank you for your message. I checked Globalantiscam.org website.
Unfortunately I can't pay forward amount.
That's also something strange. Why all the companies, or organizations supposed to help scammed people are asking for forward money? If their ability to recover something is true, they can ask 20% of the recovered money from my personal money I put in the trade. In my case, there is no problem to do that. And if my MT5 account is real, I can give 50% of my account.
 
Hi,
Thank you for your message. I checked Globalantiscam.org website.
Unfortunately I can't pay forward amount.
That's also something strange. Why all the companies, or organizations supposed to help scammed people are asking for forward money? If their ability to recover something is true, they can ask 20% of the recovered money from my personal money I put in the trade. In my case, there is no problem to do that. And if my MT5 account is real, I can give 50% of my account.
Most recovery companies are also scams and it is Not recommended that you, or any victim, use one. These scams are called Pig Butchering and below are more details.


 
That's also something strange. Why all the companies, or organizations supposed to help scammed people are asking for forward money? If their ability to recover something is true, they can ask 20% of the recovered money from my personal money I put in the trade. In my case, there is no problem to do that. And if my MT5 account is real, I can give 50% of my account.
recovery companies are a tricky business. It is true that most are scams. But it is also true that (assuming they are trustworthy) you are asking someone to invest time and energy to help you produce a result. Shouldn't they get paid for their time and research?

If you could have recovered the amount yourself, you wouldn't even need any recovery....only to warn others.
 
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