For over 2 months now, my withdrawals from Prime4x has not arrived - They are scammer
See my contribution "Prime4X does not pay back" in this thread. I can add that a friend of mine is waiting for a substantial withdrawal since September this year; I will encourage her to contribute to this thread.
The accountants department at Prime4X is a mess. I had my first warning when it took two months (!) to get my deposit booked on my trading account. At that time, mr Joe Adams of P4X picked up my case from the FPA forum and finally helped me but he seems disappeared now. Was he going after customer's interests too much?
Update 21-Nov:
Since my first post, I had some more e-mails with them. I drew their attention to this thread. They fail to provide evidence of the money actually having been wired. Will chase them all the way.
Update 22-Nov:
Today, I received the postal address of P4X and I sent a letter to their General Management, see attachment.
Update 24-Nov
Yesterday, the P4X accounting department (they should know) wrote me an e-mail stating he name and address of their bank: Barclay's of Dubai. I immediately wrote an e-mail to Barclay's, trying to find out if they could say anything about my transfer. This is what they wrote back:
Thank you for your email. Please note the client in question is no longer an account holder with Barclays Bank PLC, UAE. Hence we would be unable to confirm any details, as requested below
Apologies.
So much for the honesty and reliability of P4X. I think nothing stands in our way to officially declare them LIARS and SCAMS. I will provide copies of the relevant e-mails as proof when challenged.
Update 24-Nov
As instructed by the lieutenant I shall limit myself to facts here and display my anger in my "own" topic.
Later today I received an e-mail from Omari, a P4X employee, who promised to go after my money and assured me that it would be in my bank account before 1-Dec. I will hold my horses until then and keep my fingers crossed.
Update 30-Nov
Today, the money arrived in my bank account! That is, 90% of the withdrawal. It appears that Hellenic Bank of Cyprus has withheld the missing 10% as cost, in violation of the European Banking Rules. I have asked my bank for an explanation. Mr. Omari of P4X will go after Hellenic Bank to have them correct this. To be continued!
Update 2-Dec
Today, I ordered another withdrawal and notified mr. Omari, asking him to pay attention to this. Got a reply within 10 min!
Update 7-Dec
Today, I received my withdrawal, 100% of it. Credits to mr. Omari who made this happen. For European customers: ask P4X for a withdrawal in EUROs. In accordance with the European rules, transmission is free of costs then. P4X uses a bank in Cyprus, which makes it possible to effectuate the payment within the SEPA, the Single European Payments Area. For customers outside Europe: despite the current problems with the Euro, it does have advantages. Why don't you join?
For over 2 months now, my withdrawal of just $400 from Prime4x has not arrived in my bank account. Without any doubt, they are scammers.
Find below my email communications with them:Re: Re: Re: Re: You promised to check my withdrawal request
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From:
Accountant Dept <accountant@prime4x.com>
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To: Adegbola Odupitan <gemaj1@yahoo.com>
Dear sir
We would like to notify you that we will request the TT copy from the bank upon your request and as soon as we receive it we will send it to you immediately .
Best Regards,
Accountant Department
Prime Forex Investment
E:
accountant@prime4x.com
W:
forex | online forex trading | forex broker | prime4x.com
P Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy.
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----- Original Message -----
From:
gemaj1@yahoo.com
To:
accountant@prime4x.com
Sent: 2011.01.26 03:21:47
Subject: Re: Re: Re: You promised to check my withdrawal request
Dear Sir,
Should it take a whole month to confirm the transfer you claimed you made with a bank?
If you sincerely send the money through your bank, may I have a copy of the bank wire transfer instruction?
Emmanuel Odupitan
From: Accountant Dept <accountant@prime4x.com>
To: Adegbola Odupitan <gemaj1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 3:54:18 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: You promised to check my withdrawal request
Dear sir
We would like to notify you that the delay is not from our side we are doing our best to help you to receive your money and we are checking with the bank to find out the reason for this delay .
Best Regards,
Accountant Department
Prime Forex Investment
E:
accountant@prime4x.com
W:
forex | online forex trading | forex broker | prime4x.com
P Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy.
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----- Original Message -----
From:
gemaj1@yahoo.com
To:
accountant@prime4x.com
Sent: 2011.01.19 19:57:42
Subject: Re: Re: You promised to check my withdrawal request
I dont believe you are doing anything at all on your purposed contacting of banks. In fact its obvious that you did not transfer any moeny at all since you have not been able to send to me your evidence of wire transfer or Liberty Reserve transfer.
You better know that as a prophet of God, I will call on fire to burn you as an organisation and you individuals involved if I dont receive my money within the next 6 days. One day has already gone out of the seven days I gave you yesterday. Your name will also be published over the internet to show your true image which is scam.
Is your bank located in heaven ? Why should it take you 1 month to contact your bank? You liers and thives. The fire of God will kill all of you in addition to the fact that the whole world will know who you are as portrayed in this matter of your refusing to pay simple $400 withdrawal when you have deducted it from my account for about 2 months now.
You are nothing but bunch of thieves and scammers and you will not last both as an organisation and as individuals. You will know by this your offence that every earthly event takes its origin from the spiritual realm.
May God Almighty punish you and destroy you all as individuals and as an organisation.
Yahweh will destroy you all.
From: Accountant Dept <accountant@prime4x.com>
To: Adegbola Odupitan <gemaj1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, January 18, 2011 3:53:37 PM
Subject: Re: Re: You promised to check my withdrawal request
Dear sir
We would like to notify you that we are doing our best to make sure that you receive your money without any further delay .
Best Regards,
Accountant Department
Prime Forex Investment
E:
accountant@prime4x.com
W:
forex | online forex trading | forex broker | prime4x.com
P Please consider your environmental responsibility. Before printing this e-mail message, ask yourself whether you really need a hard copy.
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----- Original Message -----
From:
gemaj1@yahoo.com
To:
accountant@prime4x.com,
support@prime4x.com,
info@prime4x.com
Sent: 2011.01.18 12:18:28
Subject: Re: You promised to check my withdrawal request
May I know the current situation on my withdrawal please. I hope I am not being deceived because of simple $400.
Kindly be informed that I have waited enough and I will be forced to publish widely ( including forexpeacearmy sites ) this your scamming attitude if I dont receive the payment within the next seven (7) days (on or before January 25th, 2011)
I have exercised more than enough patient in the last 2 months.
What kind of broker are you? I deposited $1,000 and now to withdraw $400 becomes a problem.
Remember that a good name is better than silver and gold. This bad publication can do more harm to your organisation than you can imagine.
To before warned is before armed.
Emmanuel Odupitan
a/c 75761
From: Accountant Dept <accountant@prime4x.com>
To: Adegbola Odupitan <gemaj1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 3:59:11 PM
Subject: Re: You promised to check
Dear sir
We would like to notify you that we are still checking with the bank and as soon as we get any further updates we will inform you .
Best Regards,
Accountant Department
Prime Forex Investment
E:
accountant@prime4x.com
W:
forex | online forex trading | forex broker | prime4x.com
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----- Original Message -----
From:
gemaj1@yahoo.com
To:
accountant@prime4x.com
Cc:
support@prime4x.com,
info@prime4x.com
Sent: 2011.01.14 03:52:32
Subject: You promised to check
Dear Sirs,
Please be reminded that I am still awaiting your findings on my withdrawal of $400 that has not been paid.
Your prompt response will be appreciated since the matter is now older than 2 months.
Thank you
Emmanuel Odupitan
a/c 75761
Tel. +2348080445836
From: Accountant Dept <accountant@prime4x.com>
To: Adegbola Odupitan <gemaj1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 3:51:20 PM
Subject: Re: Your refusal to pay the $400 I withdrew from my $1,000 deposited. This is the second month of withdrawal. request
Dear sir
We would like to notify you that we will check this issue with the bank to find out the reason for this delay .
Best Regards,
Accountant Department
Prime Forex Investment
E:
accountant@prime4x.com
W:
forex | online forex trading | forex broker | prime4x.com
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----- Original Message -----
From:
gemaj1@yahoo.com
To:
accountant@prime4x.com
Sent: 2011.01.07 03:15:55
Subject: Your refusal to pay the $400 I withdrew from my $1,000 deposited. This is the second month of withdrawal. request
Mr./Mrs., Prime4x Accountant,
We are now in the second month of my withdrawal request that you claimed to have processed but which has not been recieved by me. A week ago you clamed you are checking the issue. Please expedite actions on your investigations before I am pushed to "Shout" to the whole wrld of the caliber of broker that you are. I am only withdrawing $400 out of the $1,000 I deposited with you for trading. Dont be unfair, dont be greedy
Remember, your good image is important to you and not to me. This is cheating that will not be allowed.
You have been warned.
I am your oppressed client that will not accept oppressions.
Emmanuel Odupitan
a/c 75761
From: Accountant Dept <accountant@prime4x.com>
To: Adegbola Odupitan <gemaj1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, December 24, 2010 3:32:03 PM
Subject: Re: Withdrawal of $400 which has been deducted from my account is not yet received after weeks.
Dear sir
We would like to notify you that we will check this issue and as soon as we get any further updates we will inform you .
Best Regards,
Accountant Department
Prime Forex Investment
E:
accountant@prime4x.com
W:
forex | online forex trading | forex broker | prime4x.com
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----- Original Message -----
From:
gemaj1@yahoo.com
To:
accountant@prime4x.com
Sent: 2010.12.23 16:34:33
Subject: Withdrawal of $400 which has been deducted from my account is not yet received after weeks.
Sirs,
I started the process of withdrawing $400 from my trading account since November 26th eventually the amount ( $400 ) was deducted from my account on 10th December, 2010 but unfortunately up till now today being 23rd of December. 2010, the money has not yet reached my account.
Can you please send to me the evidence of the Bank Wire Transfer to enable me enquire the status from my bank.
You will agree with me that this is definitely too long and unfair on me as a trader.
I want to plead with you once again to kindly help out.
Thank you.
Emmanuel Odupitan
a/c 75761
From: Accountant Dept <accountant@prime4x.com>
To: Adegbola Odupitan <gemaj1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, December 10, 2010 9:30:06 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Accountant department
Dear sir
We would like to notify you that your withdrawal request has been processed and you can expect to receive your money very soon .
Best Regards,
Accountant Department
Prime Forex Investment
E:
accountant@prime4x.com
W:
forex | online forex trading | forex broker | prime4x.com
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----- Original Message -----
From:
gemaj1@yahoo.com
To:
accountant@prime4x.com
Sent: 2010.12.10 08:49:04
Subject: Re: Accountant department
Dear Sirs,
Your email below refers.
Kindly expedite action on your promise to effect my withdrawal request of $400 which is now 2 weeks old.
If however, you are having problems paying through Bank Wire Transfer, you can pay through Liberty Reserve acct U U2598154 (Emmanuel Odupitan).
Your prompt action will be appreciated sir.
Emmanuel Odupitan
a/c 75761
From: Accountant Dept <accountant@prime4x.com>
To:
gemaj1@yahoo.com
Sent: Mon, December 6, 2010 12:08:16 PM
Subject: Accountant department
Dear sir
We would like to notify you that your withdrawal request will be processed shortly .
Best Regards,
Accountant Department
Prime Forex Investment
E:
accountant@prime4x.com
W:
forex | online forex trading | forex broker | prime4x.com
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