Part II. Position Size Calculation

I’ve decided to do a demonstration of why you need to calculate a safe amount to trade. Call out an entire platoon and load them all into one van.

Pipruit: You’re right. Too many troops in too little space, and we could be missing a whole platoon in the next battle if one van has a flat tire. Some guidance initially doesn’t hurt.
Commander in Pips: Very well, then let’s start with it. Do you remember what parameters we’ve used when we calculate profit/loss, margins and so on?
Pipruit: I do, they are:
- Currency pair that we trade;
- Currency of our account;
- Cross rates if we need to convert results into some other currency – neither counter nor base currency.
- Currency pair that we trade;
- Currency of our account;
- Cross rates if we need to convert results into some other currency – neither counter nor base currency.
- Total assets value on account;
- Maximum acceptable loss value in percents in each trade;
- Stop-loss value in pips.
Let’s say that our assets value is 10,000 USD, our maximum loss in every trade is 1.5% of total assets and our average stop-loss order is 280 pips as we’ve said based on daily volatility. Later you will be able to use any parameters – the overall framework will be the same. So, here is the first task:
TASK#1 is simplest 1. Let’s suppose that your account denominated in the counter currency of the pair that you intend to trade, say, EUR/USD. Estimate dollar maximum risk value and lot size.
Pipruit: Ok, that doesn't looks too hard:
1. Our money amount of risk in each trade is equal to 10,000*1.5% = 150 USD.
2. Based on stop-loss order in pips, our lot should be equal to: 150/0.028= 5357.14 USD or ~0.05 standard lot.
1. Our money amount of risk in each trade is equal to 10,000*1.5% = 150 USD.
2. Based on stop-loss order in pips, our lot should be equal to: 150/0.028= 5357.14 USD or ~0.05 standard lot.
Commander in Pips:Let’s make the task a bit harder. What if your account currency is the same as base currency? Relatively to our example, what if your account was EUR denominated?
TASK#2. Let’s suppose that your account denominated in the base currency of the pair that you intend to trade, say, EUR/USD. Estimate the dollar maximum risk value and lot size.
Pipruit: Well, then my risk will be 150 EUR instead of USD and depending on EUR/USD rate I might have either greater lot (if EUR/USD>1 or smaller one, if EUR/USD <1). By the way, what is the EUR/USD rate?
Commander in Pips: Let’s say the EUR/USD = 1.3480 when you are planning your trade.
Pipruit: Ok, then:
1. Our money amount of risk in each trade is equal to 10,000EUR *1.5% = 150 EUR.
2. Or 150EUR x 1.3480 ~ 202 in counter currency (USD)
3. Based on stop-loss order in pips, our lot should be equal to: 202/0.028= 7214.28 USD or ~0.07 standard lot.
1. Our money amount of risk in each trade is equal to 10,000EUR *1.5% = 150 EUR.
2. Or 150EUR x 1.3480 ~ 202 in counter currency (USD)
3. Based on stop-loss order in pips, our lot should be equal to: 202/0.028= 7214.28 USD or ~0.07 standard lot.
Commander in Pips: So, let’s pass to the task where we might have to use cross-currency rates…
TASK#3. Your account denominated in EUR, but you intend to trade USD/CHF. All other parameters are the same. Assume that the current EUR/USD rate is 1.3480 and the current USD/CHF is 0.9165
Pipruit: Since our fiscal result will be formed in CHF, we need to somehow express our limit loss in CHF…
1. Our money amount of risk in each trade is equal to 10,000EUR *1.5% = 150 EUR.
2. Now we need to calculate the EUR/CHF rate = 1.3480/0.9165 = 1.2354
3. Hence, my maximum loss in CHF will be: 150EUR x 1.2354 ~ 185 CHF (counter currency)
4. Based on stop-loss order in pips, our lot should be equal to: 185/0.028= 6607.14
1. Our money amount of risk in each trade is equal to 10,000EUR *1.5% = 150 EUR.
2. Now we need to calculate the EUR/CHF rate = 1.3480/0.9165 = 1.2354
3. Hence, my maximum loss in CHF will be: 150EUR x 1.2354 ~ 185 CHF (counter currency)
4. Based on stop-loss order in pips, our lot should be equal to: 185/0.028= 6607.14
Commander in Pips: Well done!
Commander in Pips: And finally is the task with the JPY. Although this is almost the same as task#2, but many people have problems with JPY, since the is quoted for 100Y but not for 1 Y.
TASK#4. Your account denominated in CHF, but you intend to trade CHF/JPY. All other parameters are the same. Current CHF/JPY rate is 85.05.
Pipruit: Hm, let’s see:
1. Our money amount of risk in each trade is equal to 10,000 CHF *1.5% = 150 CHF.
2. Or 150 CHF x 85.05 ~ 12,758 Y in counter currency (Yen)
3. Based on stop-loss order in pips, our lot should be equal to: 12,758/(0.028*100) = 4556.43 JPY
1. Our money amount of risk in each trade is equal to 10,000 CHF *1.5% = 150 CHF.
2. Or 150 CHF x 85.05 ~ 12,758 Y in counter currency (Yen)
3. Based on stop-loss order in pips, our lot should be equal to: 12,758/(0.028*100) = 4556.43 JPY
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Table of Contents
- Introduction
- FOREX - What is it ?
- Why FOREX?
- The structure of the FOREX market
- Trading sessions
- Where does the money come from in FOREX?
- Different types of market analysis
- Chart types
- Support and Resistance
-
Candlesticks – what are they?
- Part I. Candlesticks – what are they?
- Part II. How to interpret different candlesticks?
- Part III. Simple but fundamental and important patterns
- Part IV. Single Candlestick Patterns
- Part V. Double Deuce – dual candlestick patterns
- Part VI. Triple candlestick patterns
- Part VII - Summary: Japanese Candlesticks and Patterns Sheet
-
Mysterious Fibonacci
- Part I. Mysterious Fibonacci
- Part II. Fibonacci Retracement
- Part III. Advanced talks on Fibonacci Retracement
- Part IV. Sometimes Mr. Fibonacci could fail...really
- Part V. Combination of Fibonacci levels with other lines
- Part VI. Combination of Fibonacci levels with candle patterns
- Part VII. Fibonacci Extensions
- Part VIII. Advanced view on Fibonacci Extensions
- Part IX. Using Fibonacci for placing orders
- Part X. Fibonacci Summary
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Introduction to Moving Averages
- Part I. Introduction to Moving Averages
- Part II. Simple Moving Average
- Part III. Exponential Moving Average
- Part IV. Which one is better – EMA or SMA?
- Part V. Using Moving Averages. Displaced MA
- Part VI. Trading moving averages crossover
- Part VII. Dynamic support and resistance
- Part VIII. Summary of Moving Averages
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Bollinger Bands
- Part I. Bollinger Bands
- Part II. Moving Average Convergence Divergence - MACD
- Part III. Parabolic SAR - Stop And Reversal
- Part IV. Stochastic
- Part V. Relative Strength Index
- Part VI. Detrended Oscillator and Momentum Indicator
- Part VII. Average Directional Move Index – ADX
- Part VIII. Indicators: Tightening All Together
- Leading and Lagging Indicators
- Basic chart patterns
- Pivot points – description and calculation
- Elliot Wave Theory
- Intro to Harmonic Patterns
- Divergence Intro
- Harmonic Approach to Recognizing a Trend Day
- Intro to Breakouts and Fakeouts
- Again about Fundamental Analysis
- Cross Pair – What the Beast is That?
- Multiple Time Frame Intro
- Market Sentiment and COT report
- Dealing with the News
- Let's Start with Carry
- Let’s Meet with Dollar Index
- Intermarket Analysis - Commodities
- Trading Plan Framework – Common Thoughts
- A Bit More About Personality
- Mechanical Trading System Intro
- Tracking Your Performance
- Risk Management Framework
- A Bit More About Leverage
- Why Do We Need Stop-Loss Orders?
- Scaling of Position
- Intramarket Correlations
- Some Talk About Brokers
- Forex Scam - Money Managers
- Graduation!